Re: CEUR-WS.org: conflicting copyright statements?

From a European Union perspective the Creative Commons and former Science Commons licenses and many other currently available licensing schemes are hopelessly outdated in more ways than one.
With the COVID-19 has come a flurry of (not yet) (peer reviewed) articles on preprint servers.
Even membership access only scientific journal portals are increasingly providing certain materials available through online viewing only or open access full text download.
Against this background the entire issue of intellectual rights becomes a myriad of voluntary, optional and sometimes one sided options for the authors, contributors of materials.
There should be some clear ground rules for (1) intellectual property rights of written materials and related data, (2) rules for putting these online and how viewing of these is monetized in a way benefiting both authors and portals, (3) reuse through third party web services providing reviews of industry related and other general focus information services.
Thousands of specialized news services exist for industry and academic coverage. The syndication  of all this news coverage is moot.
There are valid reasons why no self-respecting company which needs to guard its intellectual property or researchers and research institutes steer clear from using social media and many mainstream news portals, but unfortunately bad monetization and even bad intellectual property agreements are spilling over.
I am appalled to see how many websites exist that are forcing me to get a paid monthly subscription just to be able to access summaries and reviews  of the latest industry and academic research news.
The current state of things is NOT contributing to the pursuit of science and even less to the pursuit of open, free and equitable access to scientific publications and industry news.
There need to be standards, codes and adherence to intellectual property laws that obviously benefit the primary actors first and foremost, i.e. the intellectual authors of publications, and in an also equitable form the (monetization) of delivery services for such publications, and reuse through third parties.

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    On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 9:58:55 PM AST, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Upon further analysisIt looks like the statement on the CEUR WS website corresponds to 
 Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International
by-nc-nd/4.0
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/legalcode  

however, the license they ask  authors and organisers to sign gives away the commercial rightsgross misrepresentation, to put it lightly



On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 3:24 PM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarven et al
I remembered this thread, today I spotted what looks like  a conflicting statement in the CEUR copyright policywould be good if you have insights, if you could help clarify the following:
on the main page it states that anyone wishing to reuse the content must ask for permission, see txt highlighted below
  http://ceur-ws.org/HOWTOSUBMIT.html  

This seems in conflict with the provision of ccc 4.0  authors are requested to sign where irrevocable commercial rights are grantedCEUR author agreement
http://ceur-ws.org/ceur-author-agreement-ccby-ntp.pdf?ver=2021-02-12
Mindwrecking to me, insights appreciated

From
http://ceur-ws.org/HOWTOSUBMIT.html
   
   - The copyright and any similar right for the proceedings and all included material remain with the papers' authors (for the individual papers) and with the proceedings editors (for the proceedings volume as a whole). The publisher of proceedings volumes at CEUR-WS.org are the respective editors.
   - Users are allowed to access and read papers and proceedings published via CEUR-WS.org. Open access is provided for private and academic purposes. If work results are derived from papers published via CEUR-WS.org, then the derived work must include proper attribution/citation of the original paper. The open-access policy includes the right to store the paper on personal devices, and to print the paper for private and academic use.
   - Re-publication of material published in CEUR-WS.org volumes requires the permission by the copyright holders, i.e. to the paper's authors or the volume editors, or both.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 8:25 AM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarven
It is great to see alternative publishing outlets for proceedings, I am evaluating this outlet and have two bits of feedback:
The processIn http://ceur-ws.org/HOWTOSUBMIT.html I find headings such as policy, benefits, preconditions etcbut not How to submit, Have to read in much detail the whole page to find out how to submit. This information could be better organised, to make it quicker for the readerto find the information they need 
POLICY - the policy as declared in the page above is incomplete! some important bit is missing: The team says in email:we reserve the right to reject a submission based on our criteria. The
rules are necessarily vague.
What are the criteria?  This is not in the policy, however it seems  rather fundamentalI hope this service matures and to be using it , BestPDM

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 8:42 PM Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> wrote:

This may be a useful reminder to all conferences and journals lining up
to sign-up with the Springers, and the Elseviers, and the IOS Presses,
etc.. to publish proceedings for "free".

It is also a reminder to those that even go out of their way to provide
free labour under the pretext of research to improve the systems of
for-profit third-party publishers and analytics companies.

Perhaps take a moment to consider the possibility of using or
contributing to the development of services like CEUR-WS instead -
beyond the workshops. CEUR-WS has a great track record against all odds.

The CS/SW community owes!

PS: For those unfamiliar with Journal Impact Factor, don't let anyone
try to convince you that it is anything but hocus-pocus.

-Sarven
https://csarven.ca/#i


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Subject: CEUR-WS.org: CEUR-WS-25th-anniversary-1995-2020
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:14:31 +0100
From: CEUR-WS user <ceurws@sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
To: info@csarven.ca

Dear colleague,

you are one of the editors of Vol-1549 at CEUR-WS.org.
You were instrumental to the success of CEUR-WS!

We celebrate our 25th anniversary in 2020!

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Join us on Twitter and other social media using hashtags      #CEURWS
#25thanniversary #openaccess
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Share your thoughts with us! What did you like? Where should we head to
in the next 25 years?


The first volume was published on April 6, 1995,
a few months after RWTH Aachen started the SunSITE server
to support academic collaboration worldwide.

As of 2020-02-20, CEUR-WS has published more than 2500 volumes,
free of cost for authors, editors and readers.


Kind greetings,

Manfred Jeusfeld, CEUR-WS Team

PS: If you receive this email more than once, then this is because
you were editir of multiple proceedings volumes at CEUR-WS. That is
great!