Re: Blank nodes must DIE! [ was Re: Blank nodes semantics - existential variables?]

On 7/7/2020 8:36 PM, Anthony Moretti wrote:
>     In this specific case it could be rdf:type time:DateTimeDescription
>     from OWL-Time.
>     See https://www.w3.org/TR/owl-time/#time-position
> 
> 
> That's right, Simon. Correct me if I'm wrong though, using
> 
>      type: time:DateTimeDescription
> 
> versus:
> 
>      type: xsd:DateTime
> 
> makes one a reference type and the other a value type.

What I have seen time and again in modeling is that you start out 
thinking you can use a simple literal value, but later you find it needs 
to become a composite.  Say you are modeling a project.  It has a 
budget, and that's just a number, a literal value.  But soon you need it 
to have a capital improvement component and a maintenance component, and 
you find you also need it split out into quarterly segments.  Your nice 
simple literal has become a complicated construction.

So you might as well plan on that happening, to make it easy when it does.

TomP


> The "Description" suffix leads to a little confusion I think. By the 
> same logic xsd:DateTime could be named xsd:DateTimeDescription, I think 
> time:DateTime might have been sufficient. The Circle example might be a 
> better example in any case.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:32 PM Laufer <laufer@globo.com 
> <mailto:laufer@globo.com>> wrote:
> 
>     It is a poetic license. And it is a concise way of expressing my
>     understanding of how to denote everything that exists, including us.
> 
>     Laufer
> 
>     Em 07/07/2020 20:23, Patrick J Hayes escreveu:
> 
>>     Ahem. Use/mention confusion. We are not bnodes. We can be /denoted
>>     by/ bnodes. But since that is true of everything that exists, it
>>     isn't a terribly great accomplishment.
>>     Pat
>>
>>         On Jul 7, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Laufer <laufer@globo.com
>>         <mailto:laufer@globo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         we are blank nodes
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         _:x  :name  "Laufer"
>>
>>         ---
>>
>>         劳费尔
>>
>>         .  .  .  .. .  .
>>         .        .   . ..
>>         .     ..       .
>>
>     ---
> 
>     劳费尔
> 
>     .  .  .  .. .  .
>     .        .   . ..
>     .     ..       .
> 

Received on Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:41:23 UTC