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Re: Solomon''s curse and search Bias

From: Zachary Whitley <zachary.whitley@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 10:46:13 -0500
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To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
Cc: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>, Thomas Passin <tpassin@tompassin.net>, "paoladimaio10@googlemail.com" <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>, "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, "public-aikr@w3.org" <public-aikr@w3.org>
Why is this being cross posted?

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I keep hearing the song by Harry Belafonte in my head and the words "there
> is a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza".
> We have come full circle back to square one.
> Knowledge representation for computational purposes represents everything
> we can through the use of symbols and semiotics
> record and create algorithms for to utilize in a computational framework.
> Knowledge itself however covers so many more domains of discourse that we
> rapidly loose ourselves.
> There are linguistic, cognitive, consciousness, philosophical etc angles
> to the issue as well as scientific, and of course for our purposes the
> mathematical, logical and computational angles.
> Let us stick to the latter three but not loose sight of all the others.
> Milton Ponson
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> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:49 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> From my perspective, this issue boils down to:
>     1. How well tools help us achieve our objectives;
>     2. How well our objectives support our deeply held personal values; and
>     3. Whether we are comfortable turning over to advertisers, marketers,
> and search engines the determination of our personal values, in which case
> it seems to me that human life may be pretty meaningless.
> Thus, it seems to me that might be the last function we might want to
> consider turning over to AI.
> Instead, it seems like we should hold AI tools strictly accountable to
> reporting their intentions and results in terms that are not only human
> readable but also readily subject to evaluation against human values.
> It also seems to me that we can help AI agents help us by documenting our
> values and intentions (goals and objectives) in a format that is both
> human- and machine-readable, like StratML Part 2, Performance Plans and
> Reports.
> To the degree my thoughts may reflect my ignorance on these matters, I
> look forward to learning the error of my logic.  I hope overcome the
> natural human tendency to embrace artificial ignorance.  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/artificial-ignorance-owen-ambur/
> Owen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Passin <tpassin@tompassin.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 9:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: Solomon''s curse and search Bias
> On 3/5/2019 1:01 AM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> >
> > what I am trying to say, I guess, is that to understand the world and
> > resolve the meaning of life we need to reconcile the vastly fragmented
> > data and information to yield a reasonably comprehensive search
> > result,  even when ordering the sandwich
> I don't think that this is how our brains are constructed.  And I don't
> want to unify the universe of knowledge before ordering a sandwich for
> lunch.  Instead, I want to do it in a way that is easy, low energy, and is
> compatible with my needs and moods of the moment.  Maybe I want comfort
> food, maybe I want a gourmet experience, maybe I want to impress a date,
> and so on.
> So I want my brain to be able to take shortcuts that reliably serve my
> (mostly unconscious) intentions.  That's a long way from consolidating the
> universe and the meaning of life to order a sandwich.
> I think that, if there is one aspect of all this that tops the others, it
> would be the brain's ability to associate information, memories, ideas,
> concepts, etc., extremely quickly so as to bring a focused subset of its
> information to bear on a situation.  We hardly even know how all those
> different kinds on things (information, memories, etc.) could be encoded
> and retrieved in similar ways, let alone how to retrieve mainly the most
> relevant of them.
> Solve the above, and your search engines will become much closer to what
> you want (and what we all of us want as well).
> TomP
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