- From: Marco Neumann <marco.neumann@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 09:43:42 +0100
- To: Daniel Schwabe <dschwabe@inf.puc-rio.br>
- Cc: Patrick J Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, "Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton)" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, "Bradwell (US), Prachant" <prachant.bradwell@boeing.com>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Chris Harding <chris@lacibus.net>, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>, xyzscy <1047571207@qq.com>
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Of course Daniel you can do so and in effect actually is demonstrated in daily in common usage. And you can come up with a plethora of permutations here as well if you like. But you could also call your formula the old "traditional" way of looking at the hierarchy of data, information, and knowledge and wisdom. Or the use of the word information here as a formal, technical or just syntactic description like the one that is used in Shannon's information theory. But how do you fit context in here? goals? meaning? Questions I believe that would lead you down the same path John F Sowa has taken to discover the complexities of meaning*. Without guidance, purposes and intentionality your are not going to make sense of "knowledge". Modern Information science has obviously placed information here at the center, focusing on the pragmatic action-oriented aspects of information its production, distribution and consumption by humans. I think "Semantic Web" research at least the way I approach it is well positioned to incorporate this interdisciplinary complexity while still mainlining a strong footing in logic and math at its core. Not N easy balancing act but a fruitful one, one that helps keeping Semantic Web and related activities a relevant enterprise into the future in my opinion. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqSIzMnsRI https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/ontolog-forum/8jKbMLTWvZo/ECYZnyskCAAJ On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:29 AM Daniel Schwabe <dschwabe@inf.puc-rio.br> wrote: > Hi, > > "information is knowledge in action”. > Actually, I think it’s the other way around: “Knowledge is information in > action”. In other words, and simplifying a bit, any information that is > used for an action (to achieve a goal) becomes knowledge, when coupled with > the information about the action itself. > > > Daniel > --- > Daniel Schwabe Dept. de Informatica, PUC-Rio > Tel:+55-21-3527 1500 r. 4356 R. M. de S. Vicente, 225 > Fax: +55-21-3527 1530 Rio de Janeiro, RJ 22453-900, Brasil > http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~dschwabe > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:53 - 17/06/19, Marco Neumann < > marco.neumann@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > but Pat that's already a useful delineation, during my time > investigating context-aware mobile computing I also came to the conclusion > that it would make sense to separate "context" that does have an altering > effect on the meaning of the content from one that doesn't. Earlier in this > thread I took the liberty to use the formula "contextual usage of knowledge > makes it information", Kuhlen actually uses the word "action" instead > culminating in the slogan: "information is knowledge in action". Pat before > you disregard this little info nugget here as just gobbledygook keep in > mind that it originates from social sciences and epistemology. I appreciate > your own observation with regards to the use of “context”, it certainly can > be a very mushed situation and participants in the discussion are not > necessarily trained or prepared to partake in a philosophical debate about > these aspects right away. But wasn't that always like that in AI research? > Conferences, workshops, research bodies had to drive participation and > increase range to be economically viable and socially relevant? It's no > surprise that the Semantic Web community seems to be particularly > vulnerable here due to its use of the word "semantic" (almost > intentionally) in its name and the lack of "consistent use of terminology". > Maybe best best to use "Knowledge Graph" here just as catchy AI marketing > slogan like the "Big Data" or "Smart Data" categories du jour to be > championed by respective market participants, it maybe neither or only > vaguely refer to knowledge or graphs. > > > > PS: bad news especially when it comes to numbers I find it the greatest > source of misunderstandings since they are almost always unexpectedly, by > syntactical differences, used heavily use case dependent. BTW our social > security numbers may not be as unique as you might think. > > > > -- --- Marco Neumann KONA
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