- From: Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 17:59:09 +0200
- To: Agnieszka Ławrynowicz <agnieszka.lawrynowicz@cs.put.poznan.pl>, Diogo FC Patrao <djogopatrao@gmail.com>
- Cc: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com, ontolog-forum <ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <7d2ed7e0-8e6d-e682-a0d6-ff06abcf834c@ucsb.edu>
On 7/26/19 5:00 PM, Agnieszka Ławrynowicz wrote: > Hi All, > > Of course deep neural networks may be seen as form of knowledge > representation in my opinion, more precisely they are sub-symbolic or > connectionist representations versus symbolic representations which > are the standard in Semantic Web. Same here (and leaving aside that the 'knowledge' in knowledge representation is a problematic term anyway). > Though it is not „latest KR”, but have been there for a long time > under exactly the above name (sub-symbolic representations). > > Best Regards and cheers, > Agnieszka > > > >> Wiadomość napisana przez Diogo FC Patrao <djogopatrao@gmail.com >> <mailto:djogopatrao@gmail.com>> w dniu 26.07.2019, o godz. 16:40: >> >> Hi Paola >> >> I'd say a NN is not as "knowledgy" as a decision tree. I would argue >> that NN is a mathematical model that compiles previous data >> representing cause/consequences, so it's the same type of knowledge >> as, say, a logarithm table, versus the type of knowledge the infinte >> sum formula for evaluating logarithms would represent. >> >> They certainly don't look the same thing to me. >> >> Cheers, >> >> dfcp >> >> -- >> diogo patrão >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:58 PM Paola Di Maio >> <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Sorry to bang on this topic, but its the task at hand at the moment >> >> I just found an article, which is good scientific survey then >> purports NN as a type of KR >> (casually sneaks in NN as the latest KR) >> >> This is published in a Springer peer reviewed publication and my >> makes all of my hairs stand up on my head >> >> This is the kind of rubbish that without further qualification is >> being passed down >> as the latest research, and which the future generations of AI >> scientists are being fed- >> >> wonder if anyone else has a problem with this proposition >> (sign of the times?) >> I am doing my best within my means to identify and contain this peril >> >> Article >> https://link-springer-com.nls.idm.oclc.org/article/10.1007/s00170-018-2433-8 >> >> >> A survey of knowledge representation methods and applications in >> machining process planning >> >> The machining process is the act of preparing the detailed >> operating instructions for changing an engineering design into an >> end product, which involves the removal of material from the >> part. Today, machining ... >> >> Xiuling Li, Shusheng Zhang, Rui Huang… in The International >> Journal of Advanced Manu… (2018) >> >> >> > -- Krzysztof Janowicz Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara 4830 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060 Email: jano@geog.ucsb.edu Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/ Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net
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