Re: Trip Reports on Dagstuhl Seminar on Knowledge Graphs

Maybe I need to read some of the past threads for context, but this
dismissive statement took me by surprise. In what way are KGs not KR? If
that were a true, it would deeply affect my own outlook and messaging. I
ought to at least try to understand your point of view. Are you referring
to some very limited and traditional definition of KR? Insofar as an RDF
statement is a claim about the world <https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/>,
the humblest RDF graph is a representation of knowledge. So...

My $0.02 is that KG is a particular, typically simple and pragmatic form KR
by a new name -- a pretty uncontroversial point of view, I would have
thought. Not looking for a debate, just clarification.

FWIW, I was not involved in the Dagstuhl event, but really appreciated the
trip reports

Josh



On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:07 PM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Juan and all
>
> I finally got hold of the report, courtesy of Alex P
> /aic.ai.wu.ac.at/~polleres/publications/bona-etal-DagstuhlReport18371.pdf
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__aic.ai.wu.ac.at_-7Epolleres_publications_bona-2Detal-2DDagstuhlReport18371.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=r2dcLCtU9q6n0vrtnDw9vg&r=yHrezOOUvTAeD_KgsElyJw&m=gaA1u5UYZsI_ZXB4pczTes7Z4Y5XsNf17VTvGW4NoQA&s=kzwa3xf1kft82oywOFTmr3190FCOd5k-5puzviUCFy8&e=>
>
> As a scholar in KR, I am concerned at the suggestion that KG are being
> proposed
> as KR,  and at the superficiality of the content of this report, and I am
> aggravated to note the complete lack of acknowledgement of  the limitations
> of this approach.
>
> Sounds like a good example of ineptitude, inadequacy and corruption
> heavily influencing academic research and the field of AI KR
>
> *two cents still allowed?
>
> PDM
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:41 AM Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Last week there was a Dagstuhl seminar on: Knowledge Graphs: New
>> Directions for Knowledge Representation on the Semantic Web
>> https://www.dagstuhl.de/en/program/calendar/semhp/?semnr=18371
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dagstuhl.de_en_program_calendar_semhp_-3Fsemnr-3D18371&d=DwMFaQ&c=r2dcLCtU9q6n0vrtnDw9vg&r=yHrezOOUvTAeD_KgsElyJw&m=gaA1u5UYZsI_ZXB4pczTes7Z4Y5XsNf17VTvGW4NoQA&s=woJkjA7MzT9frcSHwr6o-5llrKuG9HDjHT-_mVaNkTQ&e=>
>>
>> A formal report will be coming out soon. For the mean time, some folks
>> have written their own reports. I'm sure folks in this community would be
>> interest:
>>
>> Eva Blomqvist:
>> http://blog.liu.se/semanticweb/2018/09/15/dagstuhl-seminar-on-knowledge-graphs/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blog.liu.se_semanticweb_2018_09_15_dagstuhl-2Dseminar-2Don-2Dknowledge-2Dgraphs_&d=DwMFaQ&c=r2dcLCtU9q6n0vrtnDw9vg&r=yHrezOOUvTAeD_KgsElyJw&m=gaA1u5UYZsI_ZXB4pczTes7Z4Y5XsNf17VTvGW4NoQA&s=G69b8OTXXr2Zy497b6s0DYeIAvJdAhuromY8ZC7V8AY&e=>
>> Paul Groth:
>> https://thinklinks.wordpress.com/2018/09/18/trip-report-dagstuhl-seminar-on-knowledge-graphs/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__thinklinks.wordpress.com_2018_09_18_trip-2Dreport-2Ddagstuhl-2Dseminar-2Don-2Dknowledge-2Dgraphs_&d=DwMFaQ&c=r2dcLCtU9q6n0vrtnDw9vg&r=yHrezOOUvTAeD_KgsElyJw&m=gaA1u5UYZsI_ZXB4pczTes7Z4Y5XsNf17VTvGW4NoQA&s=R8dpWgBXbjHVDqM2etP3BiTZPTPGcwsF-VmotEHrLUw&e=>
>> Juan Sequeda:
>> http://www.juansequeda.com/blog/2018/09/18/trip-report-on-knowledge-graph-dagstuhl-seminar/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.juansequeda.com_blog_2018_09_18_trip-2Dreport-2Don-2Dknowledge-2Dgraph-2Ddagstuhl-2Dseminar_&d=DwMFaQ&c=r2dcLCtU9q6n0vrtnDw9vg&r=yHrezOOUvTAeD_KgsElyJw&m=gaA1u5UYZsI_ZXB4pczTes7Z4Y5XsNf17VTvGW4NoQA&s=6A-VzuGsMu0_Ey3Mp-TSXjUM4-p3MK85sjcaJZEpXzo&e=>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Juan
>>
>> --
>> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D
>> www.juansequeda.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.juansequeda.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=r2dcLCtU9q6n0vrtnDw9vg&r=yHrezOOUvTAeD_KgsElyJw&m=gaA1u5UYZsI_ZXB4pczTes7Z4Y5XsNf17VTvGW4NoQA&s=S2dSQ7Xed01N86mt8fYTovscWTGH6x-VYNyYknz6abo&e=>
>>
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