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Re: Semantic Web Interest Group now closed

From: Martin McEvoy <martin@weborganics.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:46:11 +0100
Message-ID: <CAFUkNjmT4wSRhFk6CrNi7W=wUv-07WudMoCYm+P7dob6G7N-Zw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Cc: Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr>, Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Hyperdata is actually much more appropriate in today's modern landscape.

Best wishes
Martin

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 15:43 Henry Story, <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:

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> On 18 Oct 2018, at 16:23, Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr>
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 02:32:29PM +0200, Frans Knibbe wrote:
>
> To me, the term 'machine-readable web' excludes an important target group:
> us humans (assuming all current list subscribers are human). When I try
> explain the concepts of Linked Data or the Semantic Web to an uninitiated I
> like to use the terms 'web of data' or even shorter 'data web'. For some
> more finesse the term 'the web of self-explanatory data', could be
> considered, but I think just putting the terms 'web' and 'data' together
> sets the tone well enough.
> Also, a term like 'data web' is happily free of technicalities.
>
>
> +10
>
>
> I like the word hyper-data, as it helps both
> 1) show the continuity it has with hyper-text
> 2) has a fascinating relation to what is know as hyper-systems as
> described
>    Rutten, J. J. (2000). Universal coalgebra: a theory of systems.
> *   Theoretical computer science*, *249*(1), 3-80.
>
> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.159.2020&rep=rep1&type=pdf
>
> which is a function of the form S -> 2^2^S
>
> ie one that takes you from a state to a set of sets of such states. Sets
> of states are
> often thought of as propositions, and sets of sets of those sounds like
> quad stores.
>
>
>
> perhaps even a corner stone like RDF might be replaced by something that is
> considered better in the future?
>
>
> I heard of https://ipfs.io/ lately.
>
>
> IPFS is a protocol, so in the realm of coalgebras, whereas RDF is a data
> format and
> so in the realm of algebras. Both are orthogonal, and defined in dual
> categories.
> RDF is defined in terms of IRIs and so could easily describe states on a
> IPFS System,
> just as it can on an HTTPS one.
>
>
>
> --
> Nicolas Chauvat
>
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