- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 19:59:45 +0530
- To: brandon whitehead <brandonnodnarb@gmail.com>
- Cc: semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMXe=SpU6Rg1uCXWZLYMWtC-RNYve8jM-PdcYeP6T6o14jTsMg@mail.gmail.com>
sorry Brandon had forgotten what OpenML is (have been out of the loop for some time) just recalled- is it pretty much still the main/ only reference shema for markup languages from which XML came from? On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot > > looks useful- and a good start > > so MLschema is in practice a... MLML.? > a draft - > > is it suggested that all knowledge schemas to support > automated reasoning and AI should/could adopt its core elements as its base > (in which I could think if/how this can help my task maybeevaluate it > against our use cases) > > I checked out OpenML and found no credits, who did it, when etc > also it is not clear if its openmarkuplanguage or openmedialibrary > since both seem associated with the same group (Kronos? are they > associated with OKF ?) > both come up in searches > > > > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 6:58 PM, brandon whitehead < > brandonnodnarb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Paola, >> The machine learning community group [1] published a draft core schema >> about a year ago that, at the very least, may be of interest (link on >> main page). >> >> [1] https://www.w3.org/community/ml-schema/ >> >> Cheers, >> /Brandon >> >> On 12/05/18 11:51, Paola Di Maio wrote: >> > Eric >> > Yes, of course getting the key stakeholders involved- >> > >> > since you are familiar with the member base >> > i ll be happy to pitch directly members who are working on AI >> > if you could suggest a way to shortlist them/approach them >> > >> > P >> > >> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org >> > <mailto:eric@w3.org>> wrote: >> > >> > * Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com >> > <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> [2018-05-12 15:15+0530] >> > > Thank you Eric >> > > >> > > at this stage, I was thinking of some web based knowledge >> representation >> > > mechanism or ML for something that I am working on related to AI >> > > (I have learned my lessons- glad to share details of this early >> concept >> > > offlist to those who may express interest until it's solid ) >> > > >> > > I did a search, and found AIML which seems the closest to what I >> require >> > > however could not find a formal specification to study it >> further, and >> > > wondered about any interest to W3C. >> > > >> > > I am pretty sure the web needs what I am thinking of, to what >> extent its >> > > feasible or we can find folks to do it and adopt it, I dunno >> > >> > To motivate standardization, you have to dig up use cases that not >> > only need some technology, but motivate distinct entities using a >> > common form or interface to that technology. So a win would be >> > e.g. when folks can combine commodity tools to generate such data >> > with commodity tools which make use of it. >> > >> > >> > > > There's nothing saying you >> > > > can't have a hybrid system which e.g. uses SemWeb for entity >> > > > recognition (à la NCBO annotator) or records ML assertions in >> > RDF for >> > > > further rule execution. That requires people to have expertise >> and >> > > > commitment in both camps and so far, those folks haven't banded >> > > > together with a set of shared use cases and goals. >> > > >> > > >> > > Am thinking of something fluid, ML should be sufficient for my >> > requirement >> > > at this stage- also confess that i favour simplicity over >> > sophistication >> > > >> > > but could not find anything that does what I require so thinking >> maybe >> > > something can be done- >> > > >> > > >> > > > If you can muster >> > > > the troops (an army of five, to be exact), you can easily create >> > a W3C >> > > > Community Group (see [CREATE A COMMUNITY GROUP] at >> > > > <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/ >> > <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>>). >> > > > >> > > >> > > yep, done it before. I chaired a nice group that did good work for >> > one year >> > > then suddenly fell silent and I am still traumatized by the >> > experience. :-) >> > > (joke - it was valuable!) >> > > >> > > anyone interested in AI ML of sorts who is reliable and >> > competent (not >> > > afraid of failure?) welcome to brainstorm offlist to discuss early >> > stage >> > > concept for this work >> > > >> > > , I need specifically folks who can do implementation side of >> things >> > > (writing a parsers for validation, and implement the test cases >> > etc) and >> > > who are good at getting research funding - I am okay with the >> > concept and >> > > system design part, and that's about it >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > The tutorial seemed to be about a template language for natural >> > > > language interfaces while the overview seemed to go more into >> the >> > > > actual processing logic. Do you know if AIML captures AI logic >> and >> > > > what use cases would motivate favoring such a standard for >> Semantic >> > > > Web work? >> > > > >> > > >> > > No, guess not but not sure. AIML seems very very thin at the >> moment, >> > > although there is a free working prototype online which seems to >> > be using it >> > > https://home.pandorabots.com/en/ <https://home.pandorabots.com/ >> en/> >> > > >> > > I think there's work to be done- >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > -ericP >> > > > >> > > > office: +1.617.599.3509 >> > > > mobile: +33.6.80.80.35.59 >> > > > >> > > > (eric@w3.org <mailto:eric@w3.org>) >> > > > Feel free to forward this message to any list for any purpose >> > other than >> > > > email address distribution. >> > > > >> > > > There are subtle nuances encoded in font variation and clever >> layout >> > > > which can only be seen by printing this message on high-clay >> paper. >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* >> > >> > -- >> > -ericP >> > >> > office: +1.617.599.3509 >> > mobile: +33.6.80.80.35.59 >> > >> > (eric@w3.org <mailto:eric@w3.org>) >> > Feel free to forward this message to any list for any purpose other >> than >> > email address distribution. >> > >> > There are subtle nuances encoded in font variation and clever layout >> > which can only be seen by printing this message on high-clay paper. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* >> > >> >> > > > -- > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* > > -- *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
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