Re: AIML?

sorry Brandon
had forgotten what OpenML is
(have been out of the loop for some time)
just recalled- is it pretty much still the main/ only reference shema for
markup languages from which XML came from?

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks a lot
>
> looks useful- and a good start
>
> so MLschema is in practice a... MLML.?
> a draft -
>
> is it suggested that all knowledge schemas to support
> automated reasoning and AI should/could adopt its core elements as its base
> (in which I could think if/how this can help my task maybeevaluate it
> against our use cases)
>
> I checked out OpenML and found no credits, who did it, when etc
> also it is not clear if its openmarkuplanguage or openmedialibrary
> since both seem associated with the same group (Kronos? are they
> associated with OKF ?)
>  both come up in searches
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 6:58 PM, brandon whitehead <
> brandonnodnarb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paola,
>> The machine learning community group [1] published a draft core schema
>> about a year ago that, at the very least, may be of  interest (link on
>> main page).
>>
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/community/ml-schema/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> /Brandon
>>
>> On 12/05/18 11:51, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>> > Eric
>> > Yes, of course getting the key stakeholders involved-
>> >
>> >  since you are familiar with the member base
>> > i ll be happy to pitch directly members who are working on AI
>> > if you could suggest a way to shortlist them/approach them
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org
>> > <mailto:eric@w3.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     * Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> [2018-05-12 15:15+0530]
>> >     > Thank you Eric
>> >     >
>> >     > at this stage, I was thinking of some web based knowledge
>> representation
>> >     > mechanism or ML for something that I am working on related to AI
>> >     > (I have learned my lessons- glad to share details of this early
>> concept
>> >     > offlist to those who may express interest until it's solid )
>> >     >
>> >     > I did a search, and found AIML which seems the closest to what I
>> require
>> >     > however could not find a formal specification to study it
>> further, and
>> >     > wondered about any interest to W3C.
>> >     >
>> >     > I am pretty sure the web needs what I am thinking of, to what
>> extent its
>> >     > feasible or we can find folks to do it and adopt it, I dunno
>> >
>> >     To motivate standardization, you have to dig up use cases that not
>> >     only need some technology, but motivate distinct entities using a
>> >     common form or interface to that technology. So a win would be
>> >     e.g. when folks can combine commodity tools to generate such data
>> >     with commodity tools which make use of it.
>> >
>> >
>> >     > >  There's nothing saying you
>> >     > > can't have a hybrid system which e.g. uses SemWeb for entity
>> >     > > recognition (à la NCBO annotator) or records ML assertions in
>> >     RDF for
>> >     > > further rule execution. That requires people to have expertise
>> and
>> >     > > commitment in both camps and so far, those folks haven't banded
>> >     > > together with a set of shared use cases and goals.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Am thinking of something fluid,  ML should be sufficient for my
>> >     requirement
>> >     > at this stage- also confess that i favour simplicity over
>> >     sophistication
>> >     >
>> >     > but could not find anything that does what I require so thinking
>> maybe
>> >     > something can be done-
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > > If you can muster
>> >     > > the troops (an army of five, to be exact), you can easily create
>> >     a W3C
>> >     > > Community Group (see [CREATE A COMMUNITY GROUP] at
>> >     > > <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/
>> >     <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>>).
>> >     > >
>> >     >
>> >     > yep, done it before. I chaired a nice group that did good work for
>> >     one year
>> >     > then suddenly fell silent and I am still traumatized  by the
>> >     experience. :-)
>> >     > (joke - it was valuable!)
>> >     >
>> >     >  anyone interested in AI ML of sorts who is reliable and
>> >     competent  (not
>> >     > afraid of failure?) welcome to brainstorm offlist to discuss early
>> >     stage
>> >     > concept for this work
>> >     >
>> >     > , I need specifically folks who can do implementation side of
>> things
>> >     > (writing a parsers for validation, and implement the test cases
>> >     etc) and
>> >     > who are good at getting research funding - I am okay with the
>> >     concept and
>> >     > system design part, and that's about it
>> >     >
>> >     > >
>> >     > > >
>> >     > >
>> >     > > The tutorial seemed to be about a template language for natural
>> >     > > language interfaces while the overview seemed to go more into
>> the
>> >     > > actual processing logic. Do you know if AIML captures AI logic
>> and
>> >     > > what use cases would motivate favoring such a standard for
>> Semantic
>> >     > > Web work?
>> >     > >
>> >     >
>> >     > No, guess not but not sure. AIML seems very very thin at the
>> moment,
>> >     > although there is a free working prototype online which seems to
>> >     be using it
>> >     > https://home.pandorabots.com/en/ <https://home.pandorabots.com/
>> en/>
>> >     >
>> >     > I think there's work to be done-
>> >     >
>> >     > >
>> >     > >
>> >     > > --
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