Re: AIML?

Paola,
The machine learning community group [1] published a draft core schema
about a year ago that, at the very least, may be of  interest (link on
main page).

[1] https://www.w3.org/community/ml-schema/

Cheers,
/Brandon

On 12/05/18 11:51, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> Eric
> Yes, of course getting the key stakeholders involved-
> 
>  since you are familiar with the member base
> i ll be happy to pitch directly members who are working on AI
> if you could suggest a way to shortlist them/approach them
> 
> P
> 
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org
> <mailto:eric@w3.org>> wrote:
> 
>     * Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
>     <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> [2018-05-12 15:15+0530]
>     > Thank you Eric
>     > 
>     > at this stage, I was thinking of some web based knowledge representation
>     > mechanism or ML for something that I am working on related to AI
>     > (I have learned my lessons- glad to share details of this early concept
>     > offlist to those who may express interest until it's solid )
>     > 
>     > I did a search, and found AIML which seems the closest to what I require
>     > however could not find a formal specification to study it further, and
>     > wondered about any interest to W3C.
>     > 
>     > I am pretty sure the web needs what I am thinking of, to what extent its
>     > feasible or we can find folks to do it and adopt it, I dunno
> 
>     To motivate standardization, you have to dig up use cases that not
>     only need some technology, but motivate distinct entities using a
>     common form or interface to that technology. So a win would be
>     e.g. when folks can combine commodity tools to generate such data
>     with commodity tools which make use of it.
> 
> 
>     > >  There's nothing saying you
>     > > can't have a hybrid system which e.g. uses SemWeb for entity
>     > > recognition (à la NCBO annotator) or records ML assertions in
>     RDF for
>     > > further rule execution. That requires people to have expertise and
>     > > commitment in both camps and so far, those folks haven't banded
>     > > together with a set of shared use cases and goals.
>     >
>     >
>     > Am thinking of something fluid,  ML should be sufficient for my
>     requirement
>     > at this stage- also confess that i favour simplicity over
>     sophistication
>     >
>     > but could not find anything that does what I require so thinking maybe
>     > something can be done-
>     >
>     >
>     > > If you can muster
>     > > the troops (an army of five, to be exact), you can easily create
>     a W3C
>     > > Community Group (see [CREATE A COMMUNITY GROUP] at
>     > > <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/
>     <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>>).
>     > >
>     >
>     > yep, done it before. I chaired a nice group that did good work for
>     one year
>     > then suddenly fell silent and I am still traumatized  by the
>     experience. :-)
>     > (joke - it was valuable!)
>     >
>     >  anyone interested in AI ML of sorts who is reliable and
>     competent  (not
>     > afraid of failure?) welcome to brainstorm offlist to discuss early
>     stage
>     > concept for this work
>     >
>     > , I need specifically folks who can do implementation side of things
>     > (writing a parsers for validation, and implement the test cases
>     etc) and
>     > who are good at getting research funding - I am okay with the
>     concept and
>     > system design part, and that's about it
>     >
>     > >
>     > > >
>     > >
>     > > The tutorial seemed to be about a template language for natural
>     > > language interfaces while the overview seemed to go more into the
>     > > actual processing logic. Do you know if AIML captures AI logic and
>     > > what use cases would motivate favoring such a standard for Semantic
>     > > Web work?
>     > >
>     >
>     > No, guess not but not sure. AIML seems very very thin at the moment,
>     > although there is a free working prototype online which seems to
>     be using it
>     > https://home.pandorabots.com/en/ <https://home.pandorabots.com/en/>
>     >
>     > I think there's work to be done-
>     >
>     > >
>     > >
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