Re: AIML?

If you're thinking RDF graphs, they have multiple different syntaxes. One
of them is based on XML markup (RDF/XML), which is useful in an XML
pipeline.. But plain text-based Turtle syntax is much more human-readable.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for sharing Milton
>
> nice pointer to this interesting project  but, isnt markup languages still
> required/useful for representation even in knowledge graphs?
>
> and if not, isnt markup language the most basic way to enable intelligent
> knowledge exchange on the web
> so that it can be useful even without a knowledge graph?
>
> pdm
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:22 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Modeling AI on the web in my humble opinion is no longer a question of
>> simple markup languages, the Internet of Things or more succinctly Internet
>> of Data, Devices, DNA and Digital Agents (IOD4) increasingly uses both AI
>> and virtual reality technologies.
>>
>> In such a setting using ontologies, parsers and any automated process
>> that codes or decodes and interfaces, either in NL setting or otherwise
>> must use of category theory to create the required abstraction for
>> knowledge graphs.
>>
>> Take a look at the Blue Brain Nexus for lateral thinking:
>>
>> BlueBrain/nexus <https://github.com/BlueBrain/nexus>
>>
>> BlueBrain/nexus
>> nexus - Blue Brain Nexus - A knowledge graph for data-driven science
>> <https://github.com/BlueBrain/nexus>
>>
>> Milton Ponson
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>> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
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>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 10:29 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> looks useful- and a good start
>>
>> so MLschema is in practice a... MLML.?
>> a draft -
>>
>> is it suggested that all knowledge schemas to support
>> automated reasoning and AI should/could adopt its core elements as its
>> base
>> (in which I could think if/how this can help my task maybeevaluate it
>> against our use cases)
>>
>> I checked out OpenML and found no credits, who did it, when etc
>> also it is not clear if its openmarkuplanguage or openmedialibrary
>> since both seem associated with the same group (Kronos? are they
>> associated with OKF ?)
>>  both come up in searches
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 6:58 PM, brandon whitehead <
>> brandonnodnarb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Paola,
>> The machine learning community group [1] published a draft core schema
>> about a year ago that, at the very least, may be of  interest (link on
>> main page).
>>
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/community/ ml-schema/
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/ml-schema/>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> /Brandon
>>
>> On 12/05/18 11:51, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>> > Eric
>> > Yes, of course getting the key stakeholders involved-
>> >
>> >  since you are familiar with the member base
>> > i ll be happy to pitch directly members who are working on AI
>> > if you could suggest a way to shortlist them/approach them
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org
>> > <mailto:eric@w3.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     * Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com >> [2018-05-12 15:15+0530]
>> >     > Thank you Eric
>> >     >
>> >     > at this stage, I was thinking of some web based knowledge
>> representation
>> >     > mechanism or ML for something that I am working on related to AI
>> >     > (I have learned my lessons- glad to share details of this early
>> concept
>> >     > offlist to those who may express interest until it's solid )
>> >     >
>> >     > I did a search, and found AIML which seems the closest to what I
>> require
>> >     > however could not find a formal specification to study it
>> further, and
>> >     > wondered about any interest to W3C.
>> >     >
>> >     > I am pretty sure the web needs what I am thinking of, to what
>> extent its
>> >     > feasible or we can find folks to do it and adopt it, I dunno
>> >
>> >     To motivate standardization, you have to dig up use cases that not
>> >     only need some technology, but motivate distinct entities using a
>> >     common form or interface to that technology. So a win would be
>> >     e.g. when folks can combine commodity tools to generate such data
>> >     with commodity tools which make use of it.
>> >
>> >
>> >     > >  There's nothing saying you
>> >     > > can't have a hybrid system which e.g. uses SemWeb for entity
>> >     > > recognition (à la NCBO annotator) or records ML assertions in
>> >     RDF for
>> >     > > further rule execution. That requires people to have expertise
>> and
>> >     > > commitment in both camps and so far, those folks haven't banded
>> >     > > together with a set of shared use cases and goals.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Am thinking of something fluid,  ML should be sufficient for my
>> >     requirement
>> >     > at this stage- also confess that i favour simplicity over
>> >     sophistication
>> >     >
>> >     > but could not find anything that does what I require so thinking
>> maybe
>> >     > something can be done-
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > > If you can muster
>> >     > > the troops (an army of five, to be exact), you can easily create
>> >     a W3C
>> >     > > Community Group (see [CREATE A COMMUNITY GROUP] at
>> >     > > <https://www.w3.org/community/ groups/
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>
>> >     <https://www.w3.org/community/ groups/
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>>>).
>>
>> >     > >
>> >     >
>> >     > yep, done it before. I chaired a nice group that did good work for
>> >     one year
>> >     > then suddenly fell silent and I am still traumatized  by the
>> >     experience. :-)
>> >     > (joke - it was valuable!)
>> >     >
>> >     >  anyone interested in AI ML of sorts who is reliable and
>> >     competent  (not
>> >     > afraid of failure?) welcome to brainstorm offlist to discuss early
>> >     stage
>> >     > concept for this work
>> >     >
>> >     > , I need specifically folks who can do implementation side of
>> things
>> >     > (writing a parsers for validation, and implement the test cases
>> >     etc) and
>> >     > who are good at getting research funding - I am okay with the
>> >     concept and
>> >     > system design part, and that's about it
>> >     >
>> >     > >
>> >     > > >
>> >     > >
>> >     > > The tutorial seemed to be about a template language for natural
>> >     > > language interfaces while the overview seemed to go more into
>> the
>> >     > > actual processing logic. Do you know if AIML captures AI logic
>> and
>> >     > > what use cases would motivate favoring such a standard for
>> Semantic
>> >     > > Web work?
>> >     > >
>> >     >
>> >     > No, guess not but not sure. AIML seems very very thin at the
>> moment,
>> >     > although there is a free working prototype online which seems to
>> >     be using it
>> >     > https://home.pandorabots.com/ en/
>> <https://home.pandorabots.com/en/> <https://home.pandorabots.com/ en/
>> <https://home.pandorabots.com/en/>>
>> >     >
>> >     > I think there's work to be done-
>> >     >
>> >     > >
>> >     > >
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