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Open Data Stack Exchange beta Was: renamed to Web Data Was: new semantic web stackexchange proposal opened

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 12:36:14 +0100
Message-Id: <AF3486E6-D8F0-470F-B36A-0FA5EBD1526A@bblfish.net>
Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>
To: Christian Chiarcos <christian.chiarcos@web.de>
It looks like there is Open Data Stack Exchange proposal that is already in Beta,

   https://opendata.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic

as pointed out by the Stack Exchange question:

   https://area51.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/28389/what-gap-is-the-web-data-proposal-filling-given-we-already-have-opendata

It may be that is what we are looking for. 

Perhaps one could get them to extend their notion from Open Data to Web Data so that one
can also discuss access control issues and protected data, that is privacy sensitive (which would
still require open ontologies).

Starting a new stack exchange space requires a very big community to get together to be useful,
so one needs to combine forces as much as possible.


> On 8 Dec 2018, at 17:16, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
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>> On 8 Dec 2018, at 16:32, Christian Chiarcos <christian.chiarcos@web.de <mailto:christian.chiarcos@web.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> very nice initiative, and I appreciate renaming it to web data. Just added by 5 questions, too. 
>> BTW: What we should probably do (to increase the number of relevant questions) is to identify StackExchange questions that actually belong here. There are plenty of them, in webmasters, open-data, gis, softwareengineering, etc., just search for RDF, etc. ;)
> 
> Good idea. I have asked my 5 questions and voted 4 times (I have one vote left).
> 
> Here are the links to questions with those tags:
> 
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=rdf <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=rdf>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=json <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=json>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=json-ld <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=json-ld>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=sparql <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=sparql>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=xml <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=xml>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=owl <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=owl>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic-web <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic-web>
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=linked-data <https://stackexchange.com/search?q=linked-data>
> 
> It's actually a reasonable question whether a new repository is a good idea given the number
> of questions there. It could actually indicate also that they would gain by having one repository with communities based on linked data that allow questions to be link across communities.
> 
> I suppose 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Christian
>> 
>> Am Sa., 8. Dez. 2018 um 14:44 Uhr schrieb Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net <mailto:henry.story@bblfish.net>>:
>> I have renamed the proposal to Web Data, as a stack exchange site needs to be as wide as possible
>> to get people from all areas to contribute expertise. After all it is the questions there that select
>> the experts, and experts don't want to follow too many different sites.
>> 
>> I can only post 5 questions myself.  One needs 40 or more voted up by 10 for this to start.
>> So if you can think of practical questions (including in XML and JSON) that you have
>> had please post them there.
>> 
>> My guess is that it will be a great place for students to come to.
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> PS. There could be a question as to how it would help stack exchange if it used linked data.
>> 
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>> > On 8 Dec 2018, at 10:22, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net <mailto:henry.story@bblfish.net>> wrote:
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>> > 
>> >> On 8 Dec 2018, at 00:33, David Booth <david@dbooth.org <mailto:david@dbooth.org>> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> On 12/7/18 10:18 AM, Henry Story wrote:
>> >>> Perhaps the trick for more pragmatic answers would be to open
>> >>>   {rdf/semweb}.stackexchange.com <http://stackexchange.com/> <http://stackexchange.com <http://stackexchange.com/>>
>> >> 
>> >> Good idea!  I think rdf.stackexchange.com <http://rdf.stackexchange.com/> would be best.  Will you take the lead on getting this set up?
>> > 
>> > I have started a proposal for a new stack exchange group
>> > 
>> > https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120833/semantic-web?referrer=8LVIlli-Jxo2REi_fi0Evw2 <https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120833/semantic-web?referrer=8LVIlli-Jxo2REi_fi0Evw2>
>> > 
>> > I have called it "Semantic Web" for the moment because in order to get a good range of experts one needs
>> > to cast a very wide net (eg: maths.stackexchange.com <http://maths.stackexchange.com/>). RDF itself could lean people to think we are just 
>> > dealing with a serialization format, where we want to incorporate SPARQL, reasoning, linked data publication,
>> > OWL, libraries,  algorithms for efficiently manipulating rdf, publishing data on the web, developing ontologies, etc...
>> > We have a wide range of experts that publish in journals, and teach students at universities under 
>> > the semantic web heading who can help.
>> > 
>> > To become public we need to gather a large enough community of experts to participate, and
>> > we need 50 interesting questions.
>> > 
>> > See the rules here:
>> > 
>> >  https://area51.stackexchange.com/faq <https://area51.stackexchange.com/faq>
>> > 
>> > "the goal is to come up with at least 40 questions that embody the topic's scope. When at least 40 questions have a score of at least ten net votes (up minus down), then the proposal is considered "defined.""
>> > 
>> > So it's really up to people here. 
>> > 
>> > I think a semantic web stack exchange makes sense, as the semantic web is too practical for
>> > maths.stackexchange.com <http://maths.stackexchange.com/> and too far away from many in computer science which has both 
>> > {cs,cstheory}.stackexchange.com <http://stackexchange.com/>. 
>> > 
>> > But we'll see. If we get enough people from this list, we can then spread the word through academia
>> > and industry.
>> > 
>> > This mailing list could then refer to answers developed there, and as a a fallback for questions that
>> > are difficult to ask. StackExchange tends to push people to be very clear with their questions, when 
>> > it is sometimes that is not so easy to do.
>> > 
>> > Perhaps Web Data would be a more generic term even...
>> > 
>> > Henry Story
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> David Booth
>> >> 
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