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Re: renamed to Web Data was: new semantic web stackexchange proposal opened

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 16:50:42 +0100
Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <5F8D242A-392C-4427-85CF-1A2049D54C7E@bblfish.net>
To: Hans Teijgeler <hans.teijgeler@quicknet.nl>


> On 8 Dec 2018, at 16:38, Hans Teijgeler <hans.teijgeler@quicknet.nl> wrote:
> 
> Henry,
> I have "unfollowed" because you don't let me ask my own question. The site is all yours now.

I can't stop you asking your own questions, so I am not sure what you mean.
Each person has a max of 5 questions to start with, including me. Those are 
the rules of the StackExchange game, as we have to prove that there is a large 
enough community of experts interested in a topic to create a new forum. 

I did leave a few comments on your question

"Why is the Semantic Web not eating its own dog food? Its documentation is almost impenetrable."
https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120833/semantic-web?referrer=8LVIlli-Jxo2REi_fi0Evw2

asking you to be more precise in your questions, as it usual on stack exchange.
(I have had questions closed on Math.stackexchange.com for being too vague eg.
Isomorphism in the real world
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2494830/isomorphism-in-the-real-world
)

I also up-voted your question
"Can RDF be used without having to use OWL?"

The idea is that we need over 40 questions with each 10+ votes to prove there is
interest.


> Regards, Hans
>> Op 8 december 2018 om 14:44 schreef Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>:
>> 
>> 
>> I have renamed the proposal to Web Data, as a stack exchange site needs to be as wide as possible
>> to get people from all areas to contribute expertise. After all it is the questions there that select
>> the experts, and experts don't want to follow too many different sites.
>> 
>> I can only post 5 questions myself. One needs 40 or more voted up by 10 for this to start.
>> So if you can think of practical questions (including in XML and JSON) that you have
>> had please post them there.
>> 
>> My guess is that it will be a great place for students to come to.
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> PS. There could be a question as to how it would help stack exchange if it used linked data.
>> 
>>> On 8 Dec 2018, at 10:22, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
>>>> On 8 Dec 2018, at 00:33, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/7/18 10:18 AM, Henry Story wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps the trick for more pragmatic answers would be to open
>>>>> {rdf/semweb}.stackexchange.com <http://stackexchange.com>
>>>> Good idea! I think rdf.stackexchange.com would be best. Will you take the lead on getting this set up?
>>> I have started a proposal for a new stack exchange group
>>> 
>>> https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120833/semantic-web?referrer=8LVIlli-Jxo2REi_fi0Evw2
>>> 
>>> I have called it "Semantic Web" for the moment because in order to get a good range of experts one needs
>>> to cast a very wide net (eg: maths.stackexchange.com). RDF itself could lean people to think we are just 
>>> dealing with a serialization format, where we want to incorporate SPARQL, reasoning, linked data publication,
>>> OWL, libraries, algorithms for efficiently manipulating rdf, publishing data on the web, developing ontologies, etc...
>>> We have a wide range of experts that publish in journals, and teach students at universities under 
>>> the semantic web heading who can help.
>>> 
>>> To become public we need to gather a large enough community of experts to participate, and
>>> we need 50 interesting questions.
>>> 
>>> See the rules here:
>>> 
>>> https://area51.stackexchange.com/faq
>>> 
>>> "the goal is to come up with at least 40 questions that embody the topic's scope. When at least 40 questions have a score of at least ten net votes (up minus down), then the proposal is considered "defined.""
>>> 
>>> So it's really up to people here. 
>>> 
>>> I think a semantic web stack exchange makes sense, as the semantic web is too practical for
>>> maths.stackexchange.com and too far away from many in computer science which has both 
>>> {cs,cstheory}.stackexchange.com. 
>>> 
>>> But we'll see. If we get enough people from this list, we can then spread the word through academia
>>> and industry.
>>> 
>>> This mailing list could then refer to answers developed there, and as a a fallback for questions that
>>> are difficult to ask. StackExchange tends to push people to be very clear with their questions, when 
>>> it is sometimes that is not so easy to do.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps Web Data would be a more generic term even...
>>> 
>>> Henry Story
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David Booth
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