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RE: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

From: James Phare <james.phare@datatovalue.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:05:31 +0000
To: Ruben Verborgh <Ruben.Verborgh@UGent.be>, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk>
CC: Carl Wimmer <carl@correlationconcepts.com>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
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Feel free to tell me to get back in my box....I'am a practitioner, not a sales guy I assure you :-)

This debate is really interesting & timely. It's something we debate as a company often and exactly the kind of dialogue we're trying to achieve at www.connected-data.london on 16th November.  Recently it's been too adversarial with debates about e.g. graph vs triplestore, RDF vs JSON-LD etc.  rather than the requirements these approaches are suited to. I agree the available guidance for people new to this space is also somewhat hard to find & consume - this is where people like Neo are making things very accessible.

I think if semantic web solutions offer a net benefit to those required to do the work to curate the data it's a very easy sell but the fundamentals have to be addressed first.  We often see Linked Open Data sets where the semantic quality of the underlying ontology is great but the actual data quality itself is very poor and undermines credibility and usefulness. 

I'm also pleased to say we have tried to eat our own dog food with conference and created a schema.org json-ld event file :-) (we didn't have resources available for full RDF - maybe next year). 

We have a couple of panels addressing these topics below. Would be great to have some more perspectives debating these questions in November.

http://connected-data.london/category/panel/

I agree there seem to be some big private sector initiatives out there - getting them to openly talk & share knowledge about this though is another challenge...

Cheers

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben Verborgh [mailto:Ruben.Verborgh@UGent.be] 
Sent: 12 October 2017 14:06
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk>
Cc: Carl Wimmer <carl@correlationconcepts.com>; semantic-web@w3.org
Subject: Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

> Still waiting for Semantic Web researchers and venues to 
> eat-your-own-dog-food

Let's not wait for the venues, we should simply to this ourselves, bottom-up.
Linked Data has never been top-down anyway.

Ruben

PS Blatant self-advertising, hoping that it inspires others:
- http://query.verborgh.org/ with Linked Data from https://data.verborgh.org/ruben - https://ruben.verborgh.org/articles/
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