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Re: I am.

From: Ghislain Atemezing <auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 18:53:17 +0200
Message-Id: <744A9CDE-C95B-4FC6-8D72-09BD80C6400D@eurecom.fr>
Cc: Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>, "semantic-web@w3.org Web" <semantic-web@w3.org>
To: Nathan Rixham <nathan@webr3.org>
Awesome!
@prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/>.

<> dc:author [].
<> <> <> .
[] <> [] .

This is where I like RDF :)
I know now where to start a lesson on SemWeb :)


> Le 19 mai 2017 à 18:35, Nathan Rixham <nathan@webr3.org> a écrit :
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> > <> <> <> .
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> This would make a good test case, or rule, to deduce something when encountered
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> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com <mailto:dev@mobileink.com>> wrote:
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> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org <mailto:timbl@w3.org>> wrote:
> Yes, I is an indexical, and we have in our language one indexical at our disposal, 
> 
> <>
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> which is “this document”, so we can formalize “I" as  the author of the document  as
> in N3 as
> 
> [ is dc:author of <> ] 
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> read “the author of this message”
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> So
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> [ is dc:author of <> ]  .
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> Could be read as “I exist”.
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> Or in plain turtle
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> <> dc:author [] . 
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> Excellent, why didn't I think of that? I stand corrected.
> 
> I'll go you one better.  English has the copula ("am"), which is lacking in many natural languages.  So we can read <> as analogous to the "sum" of "Cogito ergo sum".  And since <> is general, we can take it as referring not just to identity but to space-time location, yielding <> = sum-here-now.  Then if we discard the notion that RDF triples must be translatable directly or naturally to Subject-Verb-Object constructions in some natural language, we can write
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> <> <> <> .
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> At least I think we can.  I'm not sure how best to gloss it; something like "every doc is related to itself by itself (in space-time)"?  Which is kinda sorta like "I am", if you squint hard enough.
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> It won't get published in Philosphical Quarterly any time soon, but it makes for a pretty good RDF riddle.
> 
> -Gregg
>  
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>> On 2017-05 -18, at 22:54, Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com <mailto:dev@mobileink.com>> wrote:
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>> On May 17, 2017 4:46 PM, "Sarven Capadisli" <info@csarven.ca <mailto:info@csarven.ca>> wrote:
>> Philosophers and Semantic Web junkies gather around.
>> 
>> Use the the RDF language to represent the following statement:
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>> "I am."
>> 
>> obviously not possible, since "I" is an indexical.  You might as well try "now”.
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> [ is date of <> ]    # now?
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>> 
>> -Sarven
>> http://csarven.ca/#i <http://csarven.ca/#i>
>> 
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