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Re: I am.

From: Nathan Rixham <nathan@webr3.org>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 17:35:49 +0100
Message-ID: <CANiy74y5wcA3E4x0wPnS_+-FroVLyOJArFVFvppe7g976caanQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com>
Cc: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>, SW-forum Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
> <> <> <> .

This would make a good test case, or rule, to deduce something when
encountered

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I is an indexical, and we have in our language one indexical at our
>> disposal,
>>
>> <>
>>
>> which is “this document”, so we can formalize “I" as  the author of the
>> document  as
>> in N3 as
>>
>> [ is dc:author of <> ]
>>
>> read “the author of this message”
>>
>> So
>>
>> [ is dc:author of <> ]  .
>>
>> Could be read as “I exist”.
>>
>> Or in plain turtle
>>
>> <> dc:author [] .
>>
>
> Excellent, why didn't I think of that? I stand corrected.
>
> I'll go you one better.  English has the copula ("am"), which is lacking
> in many natural languages.  So we can read <> as analogous to the "sum" of
> "Cogito ergo sum".  And since <> is general, we can take it as referring
> not just to identity but to space-time location, yielding <> =
> sum-here-now.  Then if we discard the notion that RDF triples must be
> translatable directly or naturally to Subject-Verb-Object constructions in
> some natural language, we can write
>
> <> <> <> .
>
> At least I think we can.  I'm not sure how best to gloss it; something
> like "every doc is related to itself by itself (in space-time)"?  Which is
> kinda sorta like "I am", if you squint hard enough.
>
> It won't get published in Philosphical Quarterly any time soon, but it
> makes for a pretty good RDF riddle.
>
> -Gregg
>
>
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>> On 2017-05 -18, at 22:54, Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com> wrote:
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>> On May 17, 2017 4:46 PM, "Sarven Capadisli" <info@csarven.ca> wrote:
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>> Philosophers and Semantic Web junkies gather around.
>>
>> Use the the RDF language to represent the following statement:
>>
>> "I am."
>>
>>
>> obviously not possible, since "I" is an indexical.  You might as well try
>> "now”.
>>
>>
>>
>> [ is date of <> ]    # now?
>>
>>
>> -Sarven
>> http://csarven.ca/#i
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