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Re: Keeping the Faith

From: Jean-Marc Vanel <jeanmarc.vanel@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:52:57 +0200
Message-ID: <CANwvFKBs8iHj3u-8rRuam2ctmygB+0x=s=Xf3ASt9U3Dqs96nw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Dominic Oldman <doint@oldman.me.uk>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Thanks Dominic

I saw the video (maximum screen resolution should be by default).
Great application indeed !

I saw the site
http://www.researchspace.org/
but it does not mention the source code.
Alas that would be of little help to the community if the code code is not
available.







2017-04-30 13:12 GMT+02:00 Dominic Oldman <doint@oldman.me.uk>:

> Dear Jean-Marc
>
> The vision was that knowledge systems from different domains (disciplines)
> would be transferred to the SW. Currently some domains have adopted SW more
> than others and these areas are developing useful information relevant to
> adoption, both from technical perspective and, perhaps now more
> importantly, a user perspective. I can point to some of the
> features/components that you talk about in Cultural Heritage/Humanities but
> which could have wider application.
>
> The British Museum (funded by the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation) launches a
> 100% SW application this summer for use by non-technical subject experts
> working in the humanities, (some current features at https://youtu.be/
> TgeJhWhiyrc) underpinned by a strong knowledge representation system, and
> there are other LOD/SW systems being produced in this community. In
> producing these system we develop new knowledge/understanding.
>
> Dominic
>
>
> orcid.org/0000-0002-5539-3126
>
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Jean-Marc Vanel <
> jeanmarc.vanel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim's vision is as great as ever,
>> but all the data silos like FB , G+, LI resist the move to Linked Data,
>> because this would mean a change in their data based business.
>>
>> That's the social network side of things, where Solid is laying down good
>> foundations.
>>
>> On the side of institutions data (state, museum, etc) LOD is strong.
>>
>> The weak side of the semantic web is certainly in the software tools.
>> But this is a domain where progress is possible.
>> We have quite low level tools like SPARQL databases, parsers, etc. But we
>> lack a lot of tools that SQL has, like
>> - data administration
>> - web frameworks
>> - ETL
>>
>> We need for each programming language a SPARQL and LOD based web
>> framework like there are for SQL: Ruby on Rails, Django, Simfony, Play! ...
>> This will allow to leverage on the assets of semantic web: reusable data
>> and data models.
>> Currently alas the RDF community is like louse eating on the back of SQL
>> data; we need to build RDF data directly from 100% RDF applications.
>>
>> Another field where SW and SPARQL databases would shine, given some
>> attention and tests, is enterprise data;
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_management
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_data_management
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_intelligence
>>
>> After all, SPARQL databases are graph databases, but standarded by the
>> W3C, and graph databases are already established in this field.
>>
>> Hope these hints will cheer up Brant :) .
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-29 9:06 GMT+02:00 Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 April 2017 at 01:11, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> General Question:
>>>>
>>>> How do you keep the faith or vision with respect to semantic web and
>>>> linked data? I'm also in an area where there is not a lot of venture
>>>> capital (well some) nor (many) people having a lot of understanding of
>>>> the area. At least it does not score you a talk. Is the field of
>>>> dreams mentality of "if you build it, he will come"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have to think about what is possible in the future.
>>>
>>> When television came out, it was not popular.
>>>
>>> Im inspired by this vision:
>>>
>>> “...I have a dream for the Web [in which computers] become capable of
>>> analyzing all the data on the Web: the content, links, and transactions
>>> between people and computers. A ‘Semantic Web’, which should make this
>>> possible, has yet to emerge, but when it does, the day-to-day mechanisms of
>>> trade, bureaucracy and our daily lives will be handled by machines talking
>>> to machines. The ‘intelligent agents’ people have touted for ages will
>>> finally materialize...”
>>>
>>> Tim Berners-Lee
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Brent Shambaugh
>>>>
>>>> GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh
>>>> Website: http://bshambaugh.org/
>>>> LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259
>>>> Skype: brent.shambaugh
>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh
>>>> WebID: http://bshambaugh.org/foaf.rdf#me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>


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