Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

Hi John,


On 05.07.2017 17:43, John Flynn wrote:
>
> I have long been curious about the DBpedia ontology structure so I 
> just took a look at the ontology represented in 
> (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/375401/dbo_no_mappings.nt) as 
> referenced in the email below.
>
> I normally start the evaluation of an ontology by looking at the 
> top-down class relationships. So, I did a search for the classes that 
> were listed as a direct subclass of owl#Thing to get a general idea of 
> the organization of the DBpedia class structure.
>
> To say the least, I was sorely disappointed. Here are a few of the 
> DBpedia classes that are direct subclasses of owl#Thing: Food, Media, 
> Work, Blazon, Altitude, Language, Currency, Statistic, Diploma, Award, 
> Agent, PublicService, Disease, GrossDomesticProdutPerCapita, 
> ElectionDiagram, Demographics, Relationship, Medicine, List, 
> BioMolecule. I gave up after this small sample. It is obvious that the 
> DBpedia community needs to worry a lot more about the structure of the 
> ontology itself rather than focusing on selecting a new editor. A 
> working group needs to be established to go back to the drawing board 
> and look at the DBpedia ontology form the top down. It certainly 
> doesn't make much sense as it is currently structured.
>

Yes, and we are doing exactly that in a parallel process. Ideally, both 
will be finished at the same time, i.e. clean up and new editor and 
automatic validation of edits via SHACL/RDFUnit in a pre-commit hook 
plus editorial guidelines and process . So three example concerns for 
the editor are whether we can add labels/comments for 170 languages, how 
they are integrated with the DBpedia Template mappings and also whether 
domain experts can help with non-core domain ontologies.

Cheers,
Sebastian

> John Flynn
>
> http://semanticsimulations.com
>
> *From:*Sebastian Hellmann [mailto:hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2017 10:43 AM
> *To:* 'semantic-web at W3C'; public-lod; DBpedia
> *Subject:* [DBpedia-discussion] Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia
>
> Dear all,
>
> we are preparing a switch from the mappings wiki 
> (http://mappings.dbpedia.org) to another ontology editor and started 
> to collect requirements/tools here:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HwtJJ3jIlrQAPwHYhvpw4a4Z4hZorTGaZTB8Bq8Y-TI/edit
>
> We already have a demo for Webprotege thanks to Ismael Rodriguez, our 
> GSoC student. As we are lacking time and resources, we will probably 
> only consider editors with a running demo, so the community can try it.
>
> Our main interest is of course to manage the DBpedia core ontology and 
> push any mappings to other ontologies in separate files. So we provide 
> a core version for demo purposes created with:
> rapper -g dbpedia_2016-10.nt | grep -v 
> '\(http://schema.org\|http://www.wikidata.org\|http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org\ 
> <http://schema.org/%7Chttp:/www.wikidata.org/%7Chttp:/www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/>)' 
> > dbo_no_mappings.nt
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/375401/dbo_no_mappings.nt
> (I hope that the regex didn't kick out anything essential or broke any 
> axioms...)
>
> We would be very happy, if anyone from the semantic web community 
> would make a demo with their favorite editor and add a link to the 
> Google Doc and post a short message on the DBpedia discussion list[1] 
> or on slack https://dbpedia.slack.com/ .
>
> This would help us to make a more informed decision. The next DBpedia 
> Dev online meeting will be on 2nd of August 14:00 (each first 
> Wednesday per month). Presentations of editors are also welcome. We 
> will also discuss the editor question during the DBpedia meeting in 
> Amsterdam, co-located with SEMANTiCS on 14.9. 
> http://wiki.dbpedia.org/meetings/Amsterdam2017
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/dbpedia/lists/dbpedia-discussion
>
> -- 
> All the best,
> Sebastian Hellmann
>
> Director of Knowledge Integration and Linked Data Technologies (KILT) 
> Competence Center
> at the Institute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University
> Executive Director of the DBpedia Association
> Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://nlp2rdf.org, 
> http://linguistics.okfn.org, https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt 
> <http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt>
> Homepage: http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann
> Research Group: http://aksw.org
>

-- 
All the best,
Sebastian Hellmann

Director of Knowledge Integration and Linked Data Technologies (KILT) 
Competence Center
at the Institute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University
Executive Director of the DBpedia Association
Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://nlp2rdf.org, 
http://linguistics.okfn.org, https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt 
<http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt>
Homepage: http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann
Research Group: http://aksw.org