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Re: RDF/XML syntax for quads

From: Dimitris Kontokostas <jimkont@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:57:20 +0300
Message-ID: <CA+u4+a04R7w=a68rnHf-BJro8OF3ONnwhZRyg3wx_gvOEFCgrg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Tyson <phtyson@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@graphity.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Andy Seaborne <andy@seaborne.org>, Fabien Gandon <Fabien.Gandon@inria.fr>
FYI, there is a (very) recent W3C  community group trying to tackle these
problems
https://www.w3.org/community/rax/

Best,
Dimitris

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Paul Tyson <phtyson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I'm with the others who recognize RDF/XML as a fine specification for
> what it does, while recognizing there is much it isn't good at.
>
> I also believe both the XML and RDF communities are sorely lacking a
> good standard way to exchange graph models in XML. It's not as if this
> is a new problem. XML is strongly biased toward hierarchical structures,
> but has always had referencing features to enable graph representation.
>
> The STEP community, ISO 10303, long ago standardized ways of exchanging
> graph data structures both in plain ASCII records (10303-21) and later
> in XML (10303-28). The latter specification could, I think, be used as a
> model for another XML RDF syntax. ISO 10303-28 includes both an
> early-binding form, which creates a model-specific XML element/attribute
> vocabulary based on domain entity and attribute names, and a
> late-binding form, which uses a standard element/attribute vocabulary
> for expressing model-specific graphs.
>
> Regards,
> --Paul
>
> On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 14:06 -0400, David Booth wrote:
> > On 06/09/2016 11:44 AM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > we have a use case where we need an RDF format in XML syntax that
> > > 1. supports named graphs
> > > 2. has a convenient structure for XSLT transformations
> > >
> > > RDF/XML fails at #1, TriX fails at #2.
> > >
> > > I suggest extending RDF/XML with a concept of named graph,
> >
> > Please don't.  The more we can get away from RDF/XML the better.
> >
> > How about using the W3C standard SPARQL 1.1 XML results format, with
> > quads: subject, predicate, object and graph?
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/
> >
> > David Booth
> >
>
>
>
>


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Kontokostas Dimitris
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