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Re: Please publish Turtle or JSON-LD instead of RDF/XML [was Re: Recommendation for transformation of RDF/XML to JSON-LD in a web browser?]

From: Kevin Ford <kefo@3windmills.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 16:33:07 -0500
To: Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>, David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
Cc: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-ID: <55E8BC93.3080206@3windmills.com>
I worry that that 'ease' is the same kind of obfuscation that RDF/XML is 
often criticized for.  When those individuals gaze upon JSON-LD, do they 
see JSON or RDF?

Best,
Kevin


On 9/3/15 4:18 PM, Bernadette Hyland wrote:
> +1 David, well said.
>
> Amazing how much the mention of JSON (in the phase JSON-LD) puts people
> at ease vs. RDF <anything>.  JSON-LD as a Recommendation has helped
> lower the defenses of many who used to get their hackles up and say ‘RDF
> is too hard'.
>
> Perception counts for a lot, even for highly technical people including
> Web developers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernadette Hyland
> CEO, 3 Round Stones, Inc.
>
> http://3roundstones.com  || http://about.me/bernadettehyland
>
>
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:03 PM, David Booth <david@dbooth.org
>> <mailto:david@dbooth.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Side note: RDF/XML was the first RDF serialization standardized, over
>> 15 years ago, at a time when XML was all the buzz. Since then other
>> serializations have been standardized that are far more human friendly
>> to read and write, and easier for programmers to use, such as Turtle
>> and JSON-LD.
>>
>> However, even beyond ease of use, one of the biggest problems with
>> RDF/XML that I and others have seen over the years is that it misleads
>> people into thinking that RDF is a dialect of XML, and it is not.  I'm
>> sure this misconception was reinforced by the unfortunate depiction of
>> XML in the foundation of the (now infamous) semantic web layer cake of
>> 2001, which in hindsight is just plain wrong:
>> http://www.w3.org/2001/09/06-ecdl/slide17-0.html
>> (Admittedly JSON-LD may run a similar risk, but I think that risk is
>> mitigated now by the fact that RDF is already more established in its
>> own right.)
>>
>> I encourage all RDF publishers to use one of the other standard RDF
>> formats such as Turtle or JSON-LD.  All commonly used RDF tools now
>> support Turtle, and many or most already support JSON-LD.
>>
>> RDF/XML is not officially deprecated, but I personally hope that in
>> the next round of RDF updates, we will quietly thank RDF/XML for its
>> faithful service and mark it as deprecated.
>>
>> David Booth
>>
>
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