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Re: W3C Automotive Ontology Community Group

From: <mfhepp@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 11:15:33 +0200
Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>, "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, public-lod@w3.org
Message-Id: <B555C1E2-4794-4A72-967F-8178D87F55E6@gmail.com>
To: John Flynn <jflynn12@verizon.net>
John:
Thanks - quick comments:

1. As for an upper ontology: The work of the CG is currently focused on extending schema.org by automotive concepts. Schema.org provides the common abstractions.

2. As for other types of vehicles: Our work (and the initial proposal from 2014, documented at http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Vehicles), included types for bikes etc., but following feedback from the schema.org stakeholders, we removed such. As far as I can see, our approach should be compatible with related extensions for bikes, boats, planes, and space-ships, but such is outside the scope of the CG for the moment.

3. This is not at all a "research" initiative, whatever that means. Even GoodRelations has never had such narrow a focus.

" approach it
> as a business process where the investment in the development of the
> Automotive Ontology is directly related to the potential for increased
> profit within the automobile user community. This will provide incentive for
> the large and wealthy automotive industry to support the development,
> maintenance and acceptance of the Automotive Ontology.

I think that the ability to expose information about vehicles to the digital devices that potential customers use for understanding your value proposition is such a tangible incentive, be it as short-term as SEO, or longer-term.

Best wishes

Martin 


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> On 10 May 2015, at 16:42, John Flynn <jflynn12@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Martin,
> 
> It is very encouraging to see this initiative to create a "standard" or
> reference ontology to address a specific domain of wide interest. Hopefully,
> the Automotive Ontology will become a template for standard ontologies
> addressing other domains of interest. If so, consideration might be given to
> including a limited upper ontology to address the concepts in the Automotive
> Ontology that are likely to be common concepts employed by many other
> domains of interest, such as time, space, geography, etc. This would allow
> future domain ontologies to more smoothly interact with the Automotive
> Ontology. Also, consideration might be given to including a "mid level"
> component to the Automotive Ontology that might be called the Vehicle
> Ontology. This would address the concepts that are universal to all vehicles
> and would facilitate the future development of related ontologies, such as
> the Motorcycle Ontology, Boat Ontology, Airplane Ontology, etc. Another
> suggestion is to give significant upfront consideration to the business
> model for the Automotive Ontology. Rather that addressing this effort as
> another research initiative within the Semantic Web community, approach it
> as a business process where the investment in the development of the
> Automotive Ontology is directly related to the potential for increased
> profit within the automobile user community. This will provide incentive for
> the large and wealthy automotive industry to support the development,
> maintenance and acceptance of the Automotive Ontology.
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> John Flynn
> http://semanticsimulations.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mfhepp@gmail.com [mailto:mfhepp@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 1:53 AM
> To: W3C Web Schemas Task Force; schema.org Mailing List; Semantic Web;
> public-lod@w3.org
> Subject: W3C Automotive Ontology Community Group
> 
> (sorry for cross-posting, I think this is needed in this case)
> 
> Dear all:
> 
> I am happy to announce the start of the new W3C Automotive Ontology
> Community Group. 
> 
> Please join us at
> 
>    https://www.w3.org/community/gao/
> 
> In this group, we want to advance the use of shared conceptual structures in
> the form of Web ontologies for better data interoperability in the
> automotive industry, and this at Web scale. 
> 
> In particular, we want to develop 
> 
> 1. extension proposals for schema.org so that automotive information can be
> better understood by search engines 
> 
> and 
> 
> 2. OWL Web ontologies for the automotive industry. 
> 
> Also, we want to provide a forum for bringing together researchers and
> practitioners who are working on advancing the field.
> 
> This is meant as a more sustainable form of the previously informal
> Automotive Ontology Working Group at
> 
>    http://www.automotive-ontology.org/
> 
> We will gradually integrate both activities.
> 
> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> PS: In order to join the group, you will need a W3C account, which you can
> obtain freely. W3C Membership is not required to join a Community Group.
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> martin hepp  http://www.heppnetz.de
> mhepp@computer.org          @mfhepp
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