- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:52:14 +0100
- To: Dave Reynolds <dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com>, semantic-web@w3.org
Right, good. Since this all started yesterday clearly things have moved on quickly since both domain names are functional now as you say (and this time yesterday were not). That's a welcome change and, yes, means that we don't need to make any changes to anything. Good. On 05/08/2015 12:36, Dave Reynolds wrote: > > On 05/08/15 12:25, Phil Archer wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> On 05/08/2015 11:39, Dave Reynolds wrote: >>> Hi Phil, >>> >>> Do you really mean to change the namespace? >> >> No, of course not, for the reasons you cite. But as of now, the owners >> of the vocab *have* moved it to a new location (and promised to get >> *that* back online) and, as there's a doc in /TR space that refers to >> it, something needs to be updated on our side. > > Actually I thought the owners had just offered to move the hosting, not > change the namespace. > > As of right now: > > http://rdfs.org/ns/void > > redirects to: > > http://vocab.deri.ie/void > > But the namespace in the dereferenced document remains > http://rdfs.org/ns/void# > > Dave > >> Something like this has been lurking as a future problem for a long time >> of course so part of my strategy here is to see how the community at >> large reacts to this real world case - and then see how W3C might be >> able to help, bearing in mind all the usual sustainability issues. >> >> Phil. >> >>> >>> That would mean that all existing tools that access void would cease to >>> work on new data and would have to be rewritten to look for properties >>> in both namespaces and/or all existing datasets mentioning void would >>> have to be rewritten to be conformant with the revised spec. >>> >>> The vocabulary ceasing to dereference is a minor inconvenience. Changing >>> the namespace impacts all data and is a *much* bigger deal. >>> >>> An alternative might be to leave the namespace unchanged but add a >>> comment in the document that the namespace no longer resolves and that >>> copies of the vocabulary can be obtained from X (whether that's Insight >>> or W3c or both). >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On 05/08/15 11:17, Phil Archer wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Following the demise of rdfs.org [1] and INSIGHT's statement of intent >>>> to maintain vocab.deri.ie [2], we need to update the specification >>>> document at http://www.w3.org/TR/void/ >>>> >>>> The current version [3] points to the rdfs.org namespace of course. >>>> >>>> I've created a GitHub repository for the SWIG [4] and, within that, >>>> have >>>> had a first pass at updating the voID document [5]. >>>> >>>> The offer remains on the table to host the VoID vocabulary at >>>> www.w3.org/ns/void. At the time of writing, vocab.deri.ie remains >>>> unavailable. >>>> >>>> The major change is, of course, the change in namespace, but there are >>>> many references in that document that are out of date so I've had to do >>>> more than just search and replace the namespace URI. For example, since >>>> VoID was written, RDF 1.1 has been finalised etc. Changes are listed in >>>> the change log at the end of the document. >>>> >>>> The W3C process for updating the document is pretty simple in this case >>>> [6]. We just need to make sure that members of this Interest Group - >>>> i.e. this mailing list - are content with the changes and then Dan, as >>>> SWIG chair, can call a vote (by e-mail). >>>> >>>> The doc in the GH repo has a suggested date for the new publication of >>>> 18 August but there's no need to feel tied to that. If you want write >>>> access to the repo, please just let me know your relevant ID. >>>> Suggestions for improvements are welcome of course. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Phil. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2015Aug/0010.html >>>> [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2015Aug/0013.html >>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/NOTE-void-20110303/ >>>> [4] https://github.com/w3c/swig/ >>>> [5] http://w3c.github.io/swig/void/ >>>> [6] http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#Note >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- Phil Archer W3C Data Activity Lead http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)7887 767755 @philarcher1
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