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Re: What should we call RDF's ability to allow multiple models to peacefully coexist, interconnected?

From: Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:26:48 -0400
Cc: semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <4520D173-E4D5-4769-A602-0AC292DDBCF7@3roundstones.com>
To: Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org>
Hi Hugh,
I'm sure you know better than I since you're closer to the ground re: Horizon2020.  I spent several hours with Barend Mons at CSHALS (Boston) & the National Science Foundation who hosted a National Institutes of Health Big Data meetup (in Washington DC) last week.  Barend indicated that RDF was quite an important piece of the work he is championing (via Elixir).[1]

In any event, I'm just getting more proactive & pushing back when people saying RDF attracts attention from a lot of smart people but it hasn't 'taken off'.  

The ship has sailed.  Major companies are using the RDF family of standards because it solves a real pain point.  It will no doubt & mature but let's stop expecting it to be the silver bullet for all vexing information management issues.  It is good for some things & will mature just like any other approach to information management but the fundamentals are strong.  

This list is probably all over this, but there are now quite a few books (mass market type & academic peer reviewed), commercially supported products, open source projects, and many big names quietly using RDF.[2]  

"A rising tide lifts all boats."

Cheers,
Bernadette Hyland

[1] http://www.elixir-europe.org/events/elixir-founding-ceremony-and-launch-event
[2] http://linkeddatadeveloper.com


On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote:

> Hi Bernadette,
> Unless you are looking at something I haven’t found, I wouldn’t have said RDF was core to Horizon 2020.
> It would be nice if it was!
> Best
> Hugh
> 
> On 10 Mar 2014, at 21:23, Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> RDF is called many things, 'a lingua franca', a 'unicode of data models' but recognize that it is the foundation of the Web of data.  This isn't a philosophical debate, its business.
>> 
>> Large and small organizations, and some of most ambitious innovation projects are using RDF to represent massive amounts of human knowledge.  The global research initiative Horizon 2020 is funded to the tune of €80 Billion (US$100B) -- RDF is core to this project.  Google, Facebook, IBM, Oracle and government agencies worldwide are all using RDF to get real work done.  They are doing it because it solves a real business pain -- data interoperability among other things.
>> 
>> RDF is a mature international data exchange standard and mature data model.  It'll keep evolving and 'be an awesome platform in the future' but today, it's pretty darn useful when you want to share information with millions of people.  
>> 
>> That is good enough for many of us.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bernadette Hyland
>> CEO, 3 Round Stones, Inc.
>> 
>> [1] http://ec.europa.eu/programmes/horizon2020/en/what-horizon-2020
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Timothy W. Cook <tim@mlhim.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@graphity.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> RDF is like Unicode of data models.
>>> 
>>> Excellent analogy; on a purely conceptual level. 
>>> 
>>> So lets focus on RDF and build it even deeper into the
>>> software ecosystem, so we can finally produce some user-friendly yet
>>> generic applications.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I certainly hope to see RDF mature and become more robust.  It is a great foundation that may be an awesome platform in the future. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
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