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Re: Is science on sale this week?

From: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286@cam.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:27:43 +0100
Message-ID: <CAD2k14NJL4W17KMa1z4-Z7bQVove-4M9voz1-+-+iR2fksGK+g@mail.gmail.com>
To: beyond-the-pdf@googlegroups.com
Cc: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>, Linking Open Data <public-lod@w3.org>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Rowe, Matthew <m.rowe@lancaster.ac.uk>wrote:

> As authors of accepted papers, don't we have the right to disseminate our
> work as a pre-prints anyway? I just put mine online anyway, and always have
> done (and will do) for people to download and read.
>
> Yes, you have the right. Unfortunately many publishers (including learned
societies such as Am. Chem. Soc.) have a policy of refusing to publish the
work formally.

In an ideal world we would all publish work when we decided it was the
right time and use the "publication system" to formalize the
archival/priority/peerReview/editing. Unfortunately the publication system
is very seriously broken.

Scientific communication is valued less by many scientists than formal
publication.


> Matthew
>
> On 14 May 2013, at 10:12, Phillip Lord wrote:
>
> >
> > ISWC and ESWC are a particular problem because they are both Springer. I
> > pulled my paper from publication last year, as they would not do an open
> > access option.
> >
> > So, with the situation as it stands, I cannot publish any semantic web
> > research in either of these two conferences.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > Alexander Garcia Castro <alexgarciac@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> conferences are important on their own. for instance, right now the
> >> ISWC is an important conference regardless of the publisher of the
> >> proceedings. if I wanted to get the 2012 proceedings I may have to pay
> >> (http://www.springer.com/computer/ai/book/978-3-642-35172-3). do
> >> publishers pay the ISWC organizers for the right to publish the
> >> proceedings? I mean, as things are now the ISWC brings people to
> >> springer, not the other way around.
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Leon Derczynski <leon@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >>> Reliable dissemination.
> >>>
> >>> CEUR-WS, ACL Anthology et al. do a valuable, critical job.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 May 2013 17:25, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>>
> >>>> If we subscribe to science, free and open access to knowledge, what's
> the
> >>>> purpose of the arrangement between conferences and publishers?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Sarven
> >>>> http://csarven.ca/#i
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Leon R A Derczynski
> >>> Research Associate, NLP Group
> >>>
> >>> Department of Computer Science
> >>> University of Sheffield
> >>> Regent Court, 211 Portobello
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> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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