- From: Denny Vrandečić <denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de>
- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:03:37 +0200
- To: Enrico Daga <enricodaga@gmail.com>
- Cc: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>, leon@dcs.shef.ac.uk, Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>, semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>
- Message-ID: <CANnnRRtN_G9chcQfmTyt55b9yt-6=o977TdyFE=2A8xq-j8zzg@mail.gmail.com>
It makes a link. In particular, it could not be used within a link, e.g. She said <a href="quote.html">I love <span resource=" http://sws.geonames.org/4951688/">Springfield</span>!</a> Cheers, Denny 2013/4/24 Enrico Daga <enricodaga@gmail.com> > Hi all, > > I don't want to deviate the discussion, but it looks to me that the use > case is something that I would implement in the following way: > > <p>It is well known, that <a href="http://sws.geonames.org/4951788/ > ">Springfield</a> has mild summers and short, but hard winters.</p> > > Yes, it is rather strange that you can't do the same only at the semantic > level, and without a triple. > But, if you do not want the triple, is the above really so horrible? ;) > > My 2 cents, > > Enrico > > > > > On 24 April 2013 20:46, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Leon Derczynski <leon@dcs.shef.ac.uk>wrote: >> >>> On 24 April 2013 21:32, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Martin Hepp < >>>> martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Denny, >>>>> First, I think you describe a scenario that has a lot of application >>>>> areas :-) >>>>> >>>>> One solution could be for the W3C agree upon a "NULL" URI (e.g. URN) >>>>> for properties and objects in RDF triples, for use in RDFa and elsewhere. >>>>> This would allow using the existing RDFa spec for your purpose. >>>>> >>>>> For instance, the W3C could define the URN NID "rdfa" >>>>> >>>>> Then, you could simply write >>>>> >>>>> <p>It is well known, that <span about=" >>>>> http://sws.geonames.org/4951788/" typeof="urn:rdfa:NULL" >>>>> >Springfield</span> has mild summers and short, but hard winters.</p> >>>>> >>>>> (I did not check whether URNs are valid for typeOf, but I think so) >>>>> >>>>> An RDFa validator would be okay, an RDFa parser could be set to ignore >>>>> the resulting triples, and if not, nothing harmful would happen. >>>>> >>>>> Another solution would be to use the owl:Thing URI, i.e. >>>>> >>>>> <p>It is well known, that <span about=" >>>>> http://sws.geonames.org/4951788/" typeof="owl:Thing" >>>>> >Springfield</span> has mild summers and short, but hard winters.</p> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I like the idea of owl:Thing. From reading the initial email from Denny >>>> saying that he is not trying to assert triples, something even simpler >>>> would be to just use the @resource attribute from RDFa Lite [1]: >>>> >>>> <p>It is well known, that <span resource=" >>>> http://sws.geonames.org/4951788/">Springfield</span> has mild summers >>>> and short, but hard winters.</p> >>>> >>>> The above markup would validate 'as is' in HTML5 without even the need >>>> to use any particular RDFa doctype. Your parser would just have to look for >>>> the resource attribute and take the URI from there. >>>> >>>> >>> Would it also validate under a strict DTD, or in XHTML? An annotation >>> that forces designers to interact with browsers in quirks mode will have >>> reduced uptake. >>> >> >> yes it would as long as you specify the right doctype for RDFa, e.g. >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" " >> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd"> >> >> Steph. >> > > > > -- > Enrico Daga > > -- > http://www.enridaga.net > skype: enri-pan > > > -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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