Re: My best practices for Ontology versioning for http://nlp2rdf.org, was Re: Versioning system for ontologies

Hm, no actually, this issue is quite easy, when it comes to large databases.

curl -H "Accept: text/turtle" "http://dbpedia.org/ontology#PopulatedPlace"
is pretty much the same as:
curl -H "Accept: text/turtle" "http://dbpedia.org/ontology"

So my questions are:

1. What do you think is the expected output of 
http://dbpedia.org/ontology ? 300 million triples as turtle?
2. How do you query all instances of type db-ont:PopulatedPlace via 
Linked Data ?

q.e.d from my point of view, as you wouldn't get around these practical 
problems.

-- Sebastian

Am 22.04.2013 11:50, schrieb Daniel Garijo:
> Dear Sebastian,
> This statement:
> "When you publish ontologies without data, you can use '#' . However, 
> if you want to query instances via Linked Data in a database, you have 
> to use '/' as DBpedia does for classes: 
> http://dbpedia.org/ontology/PopulatedPlace"
>
> is not correct. You can use "#" to query instances via Linked Data 
> databases. That is just the URI of the type. In fact if DBpedia had 
> chosen
>
> "http://dbpedia.org/ontology#PopulatedPlace 
> <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/PopulatedPlace>" instead of its current 
> URI it would still be fine. It doesn't affect the query.
>
> I'm not going to enter in the debate of "# vs /", but normally it is a 
> design decission that has to do more with the size of vocabularies 
> than the
> instances.
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
>
>
> 2013/4/22 Sebastian Hellmann <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de 
> <mailto:hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>>
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     personally, I have been working on this for quite a while and for
>     me the best and easiest way is as documented here:
>     https://github.com/NLP2RDF/persistence.uni-leipzig.org#readme
>
>     They are simple and effective and I couldn't imagine anything more.
>
>     Note that I have also secured persistent hosting for the URIs
>     (also an important point).
>     Feedback welcome, of course.
>
>     All the best,
>     Sebastian
>
>
>           Ontology:
>           http://persistence.uni-leipzig.org/nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core#
>
>
>           # vs /
>
>     When you publish ontologies without data, you can use '#' .
>     However, if you want to query instances via Linked Data in a
>     database, you have to use '/' as DBpedia does for classes:
>     http://dbpedia.org/ontology/PopulatedPlace
>
>
>           <https://github.com/NLP2RDF/persistence.uni-leipzig.org#workflow>Workflow
>
>      1. I edit the ontologies in turtle syntax with the Geany text
>         editor (or a Turtle editor
>         http://blog.aksw.org/2013/xturtle-turtle-editing-the-eclipse-way
>         ), This allows me to make developers comments using "#"
>         directly in the source, see e.g. nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core.ttl
>      2. When I am finished I use rapper
>         (http://librdf.org/raptor/rapper.html) to convert it to rdfxml
>         ( nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core.owl )
>      3. I am versioning the ontologies in a folder with the version
>         number, e.g. version-1.0 If somebody wants to find old
>         ontologies, she can find them in the GitHub repository, which
>         is linked from the ontology. I assume this is not often
>         required, but it is nice to keep old versions. The old
>         versions should be linked to in the comment of the ontology,
>         see the header of nif-core.ttl
>      4. Then I use git push to push the changes to our server
>      5. (not yet) I use a simple OWL2HTML generator, e.g.
>         https://github.com/specgen/specgen
>      6. add yourself to http://prefix.cc, see e.g. http://prefix.cc/nif
>      7. The versions are switched and published by these .htaccess
>         rules, e.g. ||
>         |RewriteRule .(owl|rdf|html|ttl|nt|txt|md)$ - [L]
>         # (in progress) RewriteCond %{HTTP_ACCEPT} text/html
>         # (in progress) RewriteRule ^nif-core$
>         /nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core/version-1.0/nif-core.html [R=303,L]
>
>         RewriteCond %{HTTP_ACCEPT} application/rdf+xml
>         RewriteRule ^nif-core$
>         /nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core/version-1.0/nif-core.owl [R=303,L]
>
>         RewriteRule ^nif-core$
>         /nlp2rdf/ontologies/nif-core/version-1.0/nif-core.ttl [R=303,L]|
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Am 19.04.2013 16:05, schrieb Prateek:
>>     Hello all,
>>
>>     I am trying to identify a system which will provide versioning
>>     and revision control capabilities specifically for ontologies.
>>     Does anyone have any experience and idea about which systems can
>>     help out or if systems like SVN, CVS can do the job?
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>     Prateek
>>
>>     -- 
>>
>>     - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>     Prateek Jain, Ph. D.
>>     RSM
>>     IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
>>     1101 Kitchawan Road, 37-244
>>     Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
>>     Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/prateekj
>>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Dipl. Inf. Sebastian Hellmann
>     Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig
>     Projects: http://nlp2rdf.org , http://linguistics.okfn.org ,
>     http://dbpedia.org/Wiktionary , http://dbpedia.org
>     Homepage: http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/SebastianHellmann
>     Research Group: http://aksw.org
>
>


-- 
Dipl. Inf. Sebastian Hellmann
Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig
Projects: http://nlp2rdf.org , http://linguistics.okfn.org , 
http://dbpedia.org/Wiktionary , http://dbpedia.org
Homepage: http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/SebastianHellmann
Research Group: http://aksw.org