Re: FaceBook taking over the web, and semantic web

BTW going over the
Newsweek<http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2010/04/22/facebook-f8-internet-open-social-graph-semantic-web-twitter.aspx>article
again, it is as full of gasps as a circus act.
There's nothing much to it in reality, apart from what we already know which
is that facebook will invest in semantic technology.

Adam

On 28 April 2010 12:56, Stephane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgg_%28software%29>Drupal and Wordpress
>>> also have a lot of what you're looking for. If you like Twitter, you'll love
>>> StatusNet.
>>>
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>> Drupal is going RDFa, with some good developers behind it.  Satus,net has
>> FOAF support.
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> Besides RDFa, all users have an automatic WebID, and they can also host
> their FOAF+SSL certificate on their user profile page [1].
>
> Steph.
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> [1] http://github.com/scor/rdf/tree/master/rsapublickey/
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>>>
>>> Facebook have also opensourced some great code, eg.
>>> http://cassandra.apache.org/
>>>
>>> This current situation is not for shortage of lines of code, or ability
>>> to re-use it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Several organizations have asked us in the past if an open access open
>>>> source alternative to the FaceBook functionality could be created.
>>>>
>>>> How about creating a global open source code coop to develop such an
>>>> alternative?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The GNU project are just launching something in this direction - see
>>> http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Group:GNU_Social ... it sounds just what
>>> you're looking for.  I suggest joining the list
>>> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/social-discuss  --- I won't
>>> repeat my views here, but see
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/social-discuss/2010-03/msg00034.html where
>>> I argue that federation and standards are more important than creating set
>>> another software toolkit.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dozens of business models out there to make money. If we just consider
>>>> the following
>>>> - Usability on Blackberry, Eclipse and Android platforms
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays, how much, how often and how reliably?
>>>
>>>
>>>>  - Open Feeds to other Social Networks
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays, how much, how often and how reliably?
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Linked Data standards for meta data encoding
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays, how much, how often and how reliably?
>>>
>>>
>>>>  - Interfacing capability with Google functionality
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays, how much, how often and how reliably?
>>>
>>>
>>>> - External Formats Compatibility e.g. for professional networks like
>>>> LinkedIn
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays, how much, how often and how reliably?
>>>
>>>
>>>>  - Feature Import for Email Providers like Yahoo!, Gmail
>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays, how much, how often and how reliably?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the business / sustainability / bill-paying story that's
>>> interesting. Someone has to cover all those bandwidth bills if you're really
>>> going after 1% of humanity. Not to mention salaries, if your quality of
>>> service and support is going to cope with the burden of  100s of 1000s of
>>> non-technical users blundering around messing things up. Which means that
>>> charging $ for a 'pro' account or putting in advertising will soon be
>>> discussed. And then the folks with MBAs show up and what starts as idealism
>>> blends into the pre-existing landscape...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Most of features on FaceBook are a nuisance to professional users.
>>>
>>>
>>> "most?" :)  what list are your working from here...
>>>
>>>
>>>>  How many academically and technically trained professionals are there
>>>> out there, on a global scale?
>>>>
>>>> If we assume 1% of the global population, that would still be 65 million
>>>> potential users!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure the answer to "we don't like this megasite" is "so we'll
>>> build a better megasite, all free and open". I don't think the answer is
>>> "we'll build the one true distributed social-stuff toolkit" either (ie. my
>>> fear w/ current GNU Social). The answer - if there is one - is perhaps more
>>> boring. To do the dull but worth job of integrating, modernising and
>>> cross-linking the existing social infrastructure of the Web. How do we
>>> persuade people to put unthanked time into beautifying eg. MailMan or
>>> migrating the big IRC networks to XMPP, when instead they could be trying to
>>> "beat Facebook" and build another Web site bigger than many countries...
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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