Re: beyond 'formal' relations: describing relations between scientific and non-scientific material

Thanks for the explanation Alan
I may get back to you offlist if I need backing in working out the domain
range pairs on some examples I am trying to work out


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM,  <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dennis
> >
> > I am  also researching relations
> >
> >
> > I have found reading about the following useful
> >
> > 1. lexical relations
> > 2. OBO Foundry ontology of relations
> >
> >  some excerpts from Azamats posts and other writings
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2009-02/msg00315.html
> >
> > however I am much puzzled by the fact that relations are considere as
> > 'properties' of  class
> > while in my view , or as in 'entity/relationship' representatio
> > relations are a different primitive type (canonical class?) by
> themselves,
> > I would be intersted in a clarification of why/how is that so
>
> Hello Paola,
>
> I think the distinct views are the difference between modeling of the
> language and the interpretation of what it says.
>
> So in OWL a property can be considered related to a class in the sense
> that there are predicates that are used in the encoding. As an example
> consider "domain" which relates a property P to a class C. One might
> consider this representation to be the "information model".
>
> However the interpretation of a property is a pairs of entities that
> are related by the property. So the "domain" relation encodes the
> semantics that the first element of all such pairs that are the
> interpretation of the property P have type C.
>
> -Alan
>
> >
> >
> > Paola
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Dennis - UT <dv.eprints@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We are currently working on a repository for OAI ORE resource maps
> >> (http://www.openarchives.org/ore/1.0/toc). In this system we are trying
> to
> >> describe relations between scientific publications and other material
> (both
> >> scientific and non-scientific). To do this we are planning to use
> several
> >> (RDF) vocabularies / ontologies.
> >>
> >> A question is: how to cope with diversity in scientific disciplines and
> >> communication on the one hand and standardizing relation descriptions
> when
> >> aggregating publications about a certain topic? Vocabularies now
> available
> >> (FOAF, DCterms, etc) mainly restrict to formal relations and do not
> include
> >> relations concerning the content in a more detailed way than for
> instance
> >> 'dc:subject'. This may be the consequence of the diversity in scientific
> >> semantics. Is there any literature/article about this issue?
> >>
> >> An example case is describing relations between scientific publications
> >> and their 'application'. For example: a publication proposes certain
> >> changes, government policy makers later decide to create actual policies
> >> based on this information. So far we didn’t find any existing solution
> to
> >> describe such relations. Suggestions on existing vocabularies to
> describe /
> >> annotate such relations are very welcome, thanks!
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >> University of Twente
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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