Re: web to semantic web : an automated approach

Hi Peter,

I agree it's vital to reuse URIs across the semantic web. However I'm not
sure to fully understand your question. Could you give an example? Are you
referring to projects like Sindice, OKKAM and MOAT, which can help the user
to find URIs?

cheers,
Stephane.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Peter Ansell <ansell.peter@gmail.com>wrote:

> Does drupal support specific rdf insertion with particular semantic web
> URI's? Ie, can one use an arbitrary URI and predicate and have drupal store
> and publish that URI with any other generated metadata about the content
> item? It is great to be a content producer but if there are some URI's that
> are shared across the web then it would be useful at a different level
> again, as the generated information isn't necessarily interlinked.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> ----- "Stephane Corlosquet" <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: "Stephane Corlosquet" <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
> > To: "Andreas Langegger" <al@jku.at>
> > Cc: semantic-web@w3.org, "semantic web" <semantic_web@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, 20 October, 2008 7:28:36 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
> > Subject: Re: web to semantic web : an automated approach
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Popular content management systems have a great role to play in
> > democratizing the semantic web. Some CMS like Drupal have already
> > understood this and are rapidly moving towards exposing their content
> > as RDF data. Because so many people are using, there is a great
> > potential in implementing some built in semantic web features, and
> > that's what's happening with Drupal 7, which will ship with RDFa
> > support in core . Drupal will then be part of the category A2, with
> > more than 30 000 RDFa enabled sites!
> >
> > --
> > StŽphane,
> > scor @ drupal.org
> > http://drupal.org/user/52142
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Andreas Langegger < al@jku.at >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > it's all happening, but it's not so easy as one may think in the first
> > place.
> >
> >
> > Basically there are multiple sources of structured/interlinked
> > information (A) and multiple ways of how to expose (B) linked data on
> > the Web.
> >
> >
> > (A)
> > 1. generated (wrapped) from information systems (RDBMS, etc) => needs
> > mapping
> > 2. user-generated (natively RDF-based systems, Semantic Wikis, etc.)
> > => already in the right form
> > 3. extracted (AI, heuristics, cypher, etc. - different levels of
> > granularity; difficult, sometimes wrong)
> >
> > (B)
> > 1. RDF documents
> > 2. SPARQL endpoints
> > 3. embedded into HTML (RDFa)
> >
> >
> > The Linked Data Community project plays an important role regarding A1
> > and A2. A3 is cumbersome and may produce wrong links and information -
> > a nightmare without implicit support for provenance. In corporate
> > environments A3 is already very popular, but in the broader Web-scale
> > I'm a bit sceptical this will work well. What do you tink?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > AndyL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Kannan Rajkumar wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mr. Ravinder
> >
> > It is a nice idea, why cannot we transform web content to semantic web
> > content.
> >
> > This is a necessity and will avoid regeneration of web content as
> > semantic web data.
> >
> > Even I am focusing in this direction.
> >
> > With regards,
> >
> > Dr. Rajkumar Kannan
> > Associate Professor
> > Dept. of Computer Science
> > Bishop Heber College, Tiruchirappalli, TN, India
> > URL: http://member.acm.org/~rajkumark/<http://member.acm.org/%7Erajkumark/>
> >
> >
> > ===================================================
> >
> >
> > On 10/20/08, ?????? ????? (ravinder thakur) < ravinderthakur@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > any thoughts on this...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM, ravinder thakur <
> > ravinderthakur@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > I have been following semantic web for some time now and have seen
> > quite a lot of projects being run (dbpedia, FOAF etc) trying to
> > generate some semantic content. While these approaches might have been
> > successful in their goals, one major problem plaguing semantic web as
> > a whole is the lack of semantic content. Unfortunately there is
> > nothing in sight that we can rely on to generate semantic content for
> > the truckloads of information being put on web everyday. I think one
> > of the _wrong_ assumption in semantic web community is that content
> > creators will be creating a semantic data which I think is too much
> > for the asking from even more technically sound part of web community
> > let along whole of the web community. It hasn't happened over last so
> > many years and I don't see it happening in the near future.
> >
> > I think what we need to move the semantic web forward is a mechanism
> > to _automatcially_ convert the information over the web to semantic
> > information. There are many softwares/services that can be used for
> > this purpose. I am currently developing one prototype for this
> > purpose. This prototype uses services from OpenCalais(
> > http://www.opencalais.com/ ) to convert ordinary text to semantic
> > form. This service is very limited in what entities supports at the
> > moment but its a very good start. I am pretty sure there will be many
> > other good options available that might be unknown to me. The
> > currently very primitive prototype can be seen at
> > http://arcse.appspot.com . This currently implements very few of the
> > ideas I have for this. This is hosted on Google's AppEngine so
> > sometime gives timeout messages internally so please bear with this
> > :).
> >
> > This automatic conversion however is not a simple task and needs work
> > in lot in domains ranging form NLP to artificial intelligence to
> > semantic web to logic etc. So thats why this mail. I will be more than
> > happy if we can join together to form a like minded team that can work
> > on solving this most important problem plaguing semantic web
> > currently.
> >
> > Waiting for your suggestions/criticisms
> > Ravinder Thakur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Web of Data Practitioners Days / Oct 22-23 / Vienna
> > http://www.webofdata.info
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Dipl.-Ing.(FH) Andreas Langegger
> > Institute for Applied Knowledge Processing
> > Johannes Kepler University Linz
> > A-4040 Linz, Altenberger Stra§e 69
> > http://www.langegger.at
>