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Re: RDF query in XML

From: Indraneel R <vascodagama1@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:10:30 +0530
Message-ID: <17873030803070540u316492eaw57a446962e5cd532@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Danny Ayers" <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
Cc: "SW-forum list" <semantic-web@w3.org>
Thanks for the reply.

   Ok i will elaborate a bit. Actually I am doing a project which involves
RDF/XML. One side of the application uses XML and more specifically voicexml
and this also generates pages in XML . So it would be easier and faster if
somehow i could use these pages itself as an input to the query language
which would read from these pages, query the rdf and returns the results.
   Also if i can specify the query in XML then i can generate the xml pages
tailored to the specifications of the query language , to query the RDF/XML
   The problem with SPARQL is the queries have to be specified in its own
SQL type syntax, which is off course not in xml , so here i will have to
parse those XML pages(from the 1st part of the app)  and extract information
from it and then convert them into SPARQL queries.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com> wrote:

> [forwarding to semantic-web@w3.org]
> On 06/03/2008, neelr <vascodagama1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi everyone,
> >         I am quite new to this RDF. I am currently working on a project
> >  which involves RDF. I wanted to know if there is any software or query
> >  language which can query RDF/XML files in XML.
> >      What I mean here is the syntactic constructs of the query language
> >  should be in XML,i.e, I should be able to write the queries in XML.
> >       Hope to hear from you guys soon.
> It would be helpful to know what kind of queries you have in mind.
> Because you can say the same thing in many different ways in RDF/XML,
> in general it doesn't really lend itself to XML style querying (XQuery
> etc). But most serializers have some kind of constrained syntax, so if
> you know it's all coming out of the same API then you're in with a
> better chance. Another alternative would be to translate to one of the
> more regular XML syntaxes, like Trix [1].
> SPARQL [2] is generally the best bet for querying RDF, and it's done
> against the model/data rather than any specific serialisation (and you
> get XML out). There were a handful of alternative query languages
> floating around prior to SPARQL, could well be an XML-based on
> somewhere - try the ESW Wiki [3].
> There are also a few XPath-like languages around that would allow
> queries against the graph (rather than the tree of XML), see [4].
> While I can't remember seeing SPARQL done in XML, I would guess a
> syntax mapping should be relatively straightforward. The top-level
> grammar should fit pretty nicely into an XML hierarchy, the pattern
> part should be expressable using (presumably namespaced) RDF/XML, with
> the inclusion of a new construct for variables. It's all Unicode. An
> XSLT transformation to regular SPARQL could be hooked onto the front
> end of an existing query engine for your implementation.
> But then again, without knowing what you have in mind, it's hard to
> see what would be gained from using an XML-based language rather than
> Cheers,
> Danny.
> [1] http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2004/HPL-2004-56.html
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/
> [3] http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDF_Query
> [4] http://esw.w3.org/topic/RdfPath
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