- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:39:34 +0200
- To: Andrew Newman <andrewfnewman@gmail.com>
- Cc: semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>
Andrew I see this as yet another aspect of the fact that the current semantic languages pile lacks a way to express the general notion of coreference. The URI a:bar, published properly as linked data with RDF description, has the same referent as b:foo, which identifies a plain vanilla HTML page, but a stable and authoritative one. It's been discussed already many times that we lack something between owl:sameAs (too strong) and rdfs:seeAlso (too weak). Your problem is quite the same. rdfs:isDefinedBy limits you to a certain representation framework (RDF). I was yesterday updating the data at http://www.lingvoj.org, and thought again that I had not the proper expressivity to link e.g., http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/da to more authoritative but not RDF-friendly URIs like http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=dan or http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=dan (this one seems to be down when I write). We can wish and be proactive towards their publishers to have such resources published as linked data, but meanwhile we are stuck. More and more I think that adding such expressivity to the langauge pile is badly needed. We need RDFSemiotics to become operational. See: http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFSemiotics Bernard Andrew Newman a écrit : > So I have been spending a lot of time recently trying to work out how > to use OWL-DL ontologies and linked data properties effectively. The > OWL-DL has properties like rdfs:seeAlso and rdfs:isDefinedBy but these > are annotation properties, which aren't extensible (can't be made > sub-properties). There seems to be a hole in these properties - I'd > like to have something that indicates that something is defined by > (authoritative) but isn't RDF. To put it another way, I think what I > want to do is reuse dc:identifier or something that would indicate > that the object of a statement (which is a document HTML or PDF) > defines the subject. > > I'd like to reuse them in the same way that you can in RDFS - so if > you look at RSS 1, FOAF and SIOC, they can all reuse and extend these > kinds of properties freely. Annotation properties seem like a good > idea but they seem to hamper extensibility (but I think I understand > why they are like that). > > I think I understand the usefulness of annotation properties, the > ideas of the above properties but I have a feeling that the answer is > obvious and that I just haven't come across the correct answer. > > > > -- *Bernard Vatant *Knowledge Engineering ---------------------------------------------------- *Mondeca** *3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France Web: www.mondeca.com <http://www.mondeca.com> ---------------------------------------------------- Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com <mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> Blog: Leçons de Choses <http://mondeca.wordpress.com/>
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