- From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:34:31 +0200
- To: "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org>, "KANZAKI Masahide" <mkanzaki@gmail.com>
- Cc: "SW-forum Web" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "Norman Walsh" <ndw@nwalsh.com>
Tim, Kanzaki,
> Should a group be standardizing the exif ontology, do people think?
Yes. How about [1]? We had a good start last year [2] - why not using the momentum for something valuable such as Exif.
Cheers,
Michael
[1] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-annotations-wg.html <http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-annotations-wg.html>
[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-vocabularies/ <http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-vocabularies/>
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From: semantic-web-request@w3.org on behalf of Tim Berners-Lee
Sent: Fri 2008-08-08 20:07
To: KANZAKI Masahide
Cc: SW-forum Web; Ivan Herman; Norman Walsh
Subject: Re: New Exif/RDF vocabulary
Kanzaki,
I have only now looked at it. The tools look nice.
I have one comment about the modeling.
Looking at for example
http://www.kanzaki.com/test/exif2rdf?u=http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/ixy30/SPL/IMG_0138.JPG <http://www.kanzaki.com/test/exif2rdf?u=http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/ixy30/SPL/IMG_0138.JPG>
there is what seems to be an extra arc "exifdata" to a bnode labelled
"Exif Image File Data", and then the exposureTime is a property of the
exifdata, not of the original phototo.
The arc seems to be used to group the data in the file, but I would
find it more useful I think
to define the exposureTime as a property of the picture itself.
I like the modeling of the various enumeration types I think make
sense, such as YCbCr vs sRGB etc.
I would be more inclined to model units using predicates. Instead of
(in N3)
exif:focalPlaneResolutionUnit
exif:inches;
exif:focalPlaneXResolution
"9846.15384615";
exif:focalPlaneYResolution
"9846.15384615";
I would be inclined to use
exif:focalPlaneXResolution
[ exif:inches "9846.15384615" ];
exif:focalPlaneYResolution
[ exif:inches "9846.15384615"];
You can the for example deduce what the exif:focalPlaneYResolution of
something is in meters without any contradictions.
exif:focalPlaneXResolution
[ exif:inches "9846.15384615" ; unit:m "250.0"];
exif:focalPlaneYResolution
[ exif:inches "9846.15384615"; unit:m "250.0"];
(Hmm .. in this example it looks as though the meters was probably the
original figure!)
or even
exif:focalPlaneXResolution
[ exif:inches 9846.15384615 ; unit:m 250.0];
exif:focalPlaneYResolution
[ exif:inches 9846.15384615 ; unit:m 250.0];
I made a simple suitable units ontology by the way at http://www.w3.org/2007/ont/unit <http://www.w3.org/2007/ont/unit>
Should a group be standardizing the exif ontology, do people think?
How stable is the http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif <http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif> namespace?
Would you like a w3.org namespace for it?
Keep up the good work!
Tim
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excerpt from the exit example mentioned above:
<foaf:Image rdf:about="http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/ixy30/SPL/IMG_0138.JPG <http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/ixy30/SPL/IMG_0138.JPG>
">
<dc:date>2003-01-18T16:07:30</dc:date>
<!-- Metadata from Exif section -->
<make>Canon</make>
<model>Canon IXY DIGITAL 30</model>
<orientation rdf:resource="http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif#right- <http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif#right->
top"/>
<xResolution rdf:datatype="&xsd;decimal">180</xResolution>
<yResolution rdf:datatype="&xsd;decimal">180</yResolution>
<resolutionUnit rdf:resource="http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/ <http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/>
exif#inches"/>
<dateTime>2003-01-18T16:07:30</dateTime>
<yCbCrPositioning rdf:resource="http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif#centered <http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif#centered>
"/>
<exif-info>
<Exif_IFD rdfs:label='Exif Image File Data'>
<exposureTime rdf:datatype="&xsd;decimal">0.0025</exposureTime>
<fNumber rdf:datatype="&xsd;decimal">3.5</fNumber>
<exifVersion>0220</exifVersion>
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/interop.html <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/interop.html>
On 2007-12 -13, at 11:50, KANZAKI Masahide wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Several years after my release of Exif RDF vocabulary [1], I updated
> the schema with some significant changes.
>
> The old vocabulary was defined as RDF schema and no rdfs:domain and
> rdfs:range were provided for property descriptions. While many of Exif
> tag values come just as numbers, how to describe those values in RDF
> was not cleary defined.
>
> This time, I redefined the vocabulary as OWL ontology, so that tags
> whose values have pre-defined interpretation are defined as
> owl:ObjectProperty, and their possible values as resources denoted by
> URIs. Also, domain of properties are defined (via super properties) so
> as Exif's IFD structure to be retained in the RDF data.
>
> Although those changes made the new definition incompatible with the
> old one, I would keep its namespace URI [1 + '#'] intact. If you need
> old definition vocabulary (which might be easier to use in
> hand-writing), its copy is available at W3C with somewhat authentic
> URI [2]. I will finalize this change within a week unless any
> objection (e.g. assign different URI for new definition).
>
> For users convenience, the new definition comes with a JSON file [3]
> which provides mapping from Exif tags/values to RDF
> properties/value-resources. A sample Web application to extract RDF
> from image file [4] now uses the new definition.
>
> Comments, suggestions are welcome, of course.
>
> thanks,
>
> [1] http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif <http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif>
> [2] http://www.w3.org/2003/12/exif/ns <http://www.w3.org/2003/12/exif/ns>
> [3] http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif-tags.json <http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/exif-tags.json>
> [4] http://www.kanzaki.com/test/exif2rdf <http://www.kanzaki.com/test/exif2rdf>
>
>
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