- From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:05:35 -0400
- To: lac <lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Cc: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Bernhard Haslhofer <bernhard.haslhofer@univie.ac.at>, bernhard.schandl@univie.ac.at, SW-forum Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, MacKenzie Smith <kenzie@mit.edu>, Ian Millard <icm@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
On 2008-04 -27, at 15:58, lac wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:41:19 -0400, "Bruce D'Arcus" > <bdarcus@gmail.com> > wrote: >> I wouldn't be so quick to diplomatically brush this aside. The >> library >> world is finally taking steps into the semantic web [1], but there's >> still a lot of work to do here, and making name authorities suitable >> for the 21st century has to be a big one. > > Diplomatically acknowledge, by all means. But the crux of Hugh's > work is > that the idea of a single point of authority for names is completely > outdated and should be scrapped with extreme prejudice. But currently > digital librarians, repository implementers and funders are > promoting the > idea of a unified "author name authority" for the whole of Europe. I gave a talk a while ago at Crossref.org's annual meeting - these are the DOI folks, one of the players in the game to be Great One Denominator for works. A question they asked was along the lines of: "We are desperately in need of identifiers for people. But while we have the authority to mint identifiers for books, who are we to mint identifiers for people?". In the centralized model, indeed you have to go to be the one denominator or you don't denominate at all. I tried to explain that it would be really useful for me if my publisher had a URI for me, and hung off it the things it knows about me, and it would not at all conflict with the fact that I have other identifiers. One way of looking at this in fact is that in a scale-free web you expect, and in fact optimize for, a situation where there are some major players which operate in a centralized fashion, but they are not unique, and you just integrate them with everything else. Then when you want a name, you have a choice of whether to go for a rather costly bureaucratic EU-wide (or even ask the UN) name, or use one from your local university, or just mint one yourself. The existence of the various forms of name are useful in different ways. So so long as the unified "author name authority" isn't averse to there being others, it is fine. In practice, what is your feeling from CRS -- that in this case each repository should do its own cleaning up and present its own identifiers for authors, and then build a c-reference management systems to connect those authors to authors in other repositories (including a Europe-wide one if someone wants to make one, but also including my RDF id in my FOAF file)? Or should each repository source possibly multiple ids for authors, and let an external system, maybe the authors themselves, clean up by using a co-reference service (or just a FOAF file) to generate the "I am this person" and "I am not this person" links? Tim PS: (Yes, there is a huge difference of philosophy between the decentralized and the centralized mentalities, that the goal of a large organization can be regarded by others as a bug. Or, as Simon put it, that "one man's sealing is another man's flaw".) > > --- > Les
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