- From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:08:30 +0100
- To: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Cc: <semantic-web@w3.org>
On 9 Mar 2007, at 20:08, Hausenblas, Michael wrote: > Richard, > >> The most common objections are: a) "lo-fi semantic content" >> such as RSS/Atom, tags, microformats, GRDDL and RDFa are also >> part of the Semantic Web [...] > > Mhm. I wonder where these come from ;) > Till now I was just lurking around, so please be lenient toward > me if I missed something ... > > Let me please try to clarify an issue that IMHO is important > in this discussion. One should not compare oranges with apples > when talking about what is 'in' and what is 'not in' (the SW). > > In greater detail, w.r.t. 'lo-fi semantic content' (btw, who > the heck invented this one): I did, on the spot, and I put it in quotes for a reason. > + RSS/Atom are concrete formats > + tags are a paradigm (or a concrete implementation, cf. [1]) > + microformats [2], eRDF [3], and RDFa [4] are ways to > _deploy_ (RDF) metadata > + GRDDL [5] is a way to 'uncover' the RDF in non-RDF formats They're all technologies designed for the delivery of structured information over the web. They all have a gentler learning or adoption curve than RDF/XML. Of course they are not the same thing, but lumping them together made sense in the context of my original bullet point. > So I'd like to conclude that _all_ content, metadata, formats, etc. > are welcome on the SW. We are not, I repeat, we are _not_ in the > position to judge on what is a first-class citizen, and what is not. There are a lot of people out there looking at Semantic Web technologies for Solving A Problem, Now. I spend much time interacting with them on the mailing lists for our various tools. And sorry, but I feel obliged to direct them towards stuff that *works*, that is documented and supported and has gained sufficient momentum in the marketplace of ideas. There aren't that many solutions in the SW area that fit this description. I don't jump onto every new idea, and I do not support old ideas that didn't deliver. I highly recommend you do the same. > BTW: Richard - in your opinion - are relational DB systems > lo-fi or hi-fi semantic content? ;) Are cereal boxes lo-fi or hi-fi breakfast food? Richard > > [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag > [2] http://microformats.org > [3] http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/wiki/Main/RdfInHtml > [4] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/ > [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Hausenblas, MSc. > Institute of Information Systems & Information Management > JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH > Steyrergasse 17, A-8010 Graz, AUSTRIA > > <office> > phone: +43-316-876-1193 (fax:-1191) > e-mail: michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at > web: http://www.joanneum.at/iis/ > > <private> > mobile: +43-660-7621761 > web: http://www.sw-app.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- >
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