- From: Emmanuel Pietriga <emmanuel.pietriga@inria.fr>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:30:50 +0100
- To: Jeroen van der Ham <vdham@science.uva.nl>
- Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Jeroen van der Ham wrote: >> IsaViz [1] is not actually aimed at showing Semantic Web data to >> anybody in the "real world". Its representation is too low-level for >> that. You are right when you say GSS tries to improve this, but even >> with GSS [2], IsaViz is still aimed at people who want to get an >> understanding of the structure of their RDF model, and get a more >> graphical, node-link diagram-based representation of their data. That >> is mostly RDF *developers*. > > I agree with you that currently these are too low level. > It might be my application domain, but I feel that it is important that > the structure I am putting into an RDF graph can be viewed as a simple > graph as well. I have a feeling that anything that is put into an RDF > graph has an underlying abstract graph that can be used to display the > data in a good way and show people that you are really bringing order > into chaos. I entirely agree with you, but as you say I believe that the graph structure by itself, I mean, the interest that one might have in seeing this structure, will vary depending on the application domain. Bioinformatics is one such domain, see e.g. mIsaViz [1], a specialization of IsaViz implemented by a team in Brazil that is used to represent RDF models that encode metabolic and regulatory pathway data. [1] http://www.intelab.ufsc.br/misaviz/ > Take for example FOAF, you would really want to do something similar as > foafnaut: if something is a foaf:Person, has a foaf:name and > foaf:depiction, then use that foaf:depiction as icon and use foaf:name > as label. > If you then only show foaf:knows relationships as big fat arrows, then > you can easily explore the whole graph and show the underlying structure. Yes indeed. >> For applications that try to present Semantic Web data and reach a >> broader audience, take a look at the various tools developed within >> the Simile project [3] such as Longwell and Piggy bank. Other >> interesting tools out there include Haystack [4], mSpace [5] and >> Noadster [6]. > > The problem with most of these applications are that they use the > structured knowledge in the background to provide a clear view of (parts > of) the data. Now this is very interesting for us as RDF developers, you > aren't going to win over Joe Smith who doesn't care how the data got > onto his screen, just that he can see it. And to him there is no > difference between some large database that uses complex queries and > some RDF that does the same thing in a simpler way. > > RDF gives you underlying structure of the knowledge you are describing. > I firmly believe that we should leverage that underlying structure to > display this to the user and allow him to more intuitively explore the > data represented to him. Again, I believe this is highly dependent on the application domain and on the user's task. But there are indeed cases where this is true. Emmanuel -- Emmanuel Pietriga INRIA Futurs - Projet In Situ tel : +33 1 69 15 34 66 Bat 490, Université Paris-Sud fax : +33 1 69 15 65 86 91405 ORSAY Cedex FRANCE http://www.lri.fr/~pietriga
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