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RE: INSEE releases OWL ontology and RDF data for?geographical?entities

From: Hans Teijgeler <hans.teijgeler@quicknet.nl>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:28:12 +0200
To: "'Eric van der Vlist'" <vdv@dyomedea.com>
Cc: "'Xiaoshu Wang'" <wangxiao@musc.edu>, "'Dan Connolly'" <connolly@w3.org>, <semantic-web@w3.org>, <public-xg-geo@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000001c6b9fb$7012adc0$0202a8c0@hans>


Does this response to my question imply that the other things I mentioned
are OK?

I have one last(?) question: In how far is there a relation between what we
talked about and an "endpoint"? When I have something like:
does that mean that the "local name" 'part2' is an endpoint?

And would http://www.15926.org/2006/02/part2/ then *not* constitute one?


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric van der Vlist [mailto:vdv@dyomedea.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 17:00
To: Hans Teijgeler
Cc: 'Xiaoshu Wang'; 'Dan Connolly'; semantic-web@w3.org;
Subject: RE: INSEE releases OWL ontology and RDF data for geographical

Le dimanche 06 août 2006 à 16:32 +0200, Hans Teijgeler a écrit : 
> Eric,
> You quoted:
> "It is recommended that implementors of RDF serializers, in order to 
> break a URI into a namespace name and a local name, split it after the 
> last XML non-NCName character, ensuring that the first character of 
> the name is a Letter or '_'. If the URI ends in a non-NCName character 
> then throw a "this graph cannot be serialized in RDF/XML" exception or
> Please help me understand: 
> What is weird on those URIs?

You need to go back in the context set by Xiaoshu's mail to which I was

Xiaoshu wrote:

"The reason for me to raise this question is this.  Unlike hash URI, the
namespace URI can not be "inferred" or "guessed" from a URI itself.  For
instance, a URI of http://foo.com/bar can be constructed with namespace
http://foo.com/, http://foo.com/b or http://foo.com/ba coupled with local ID
of "bar", "ar" and "r", respectively."

He meant that a URI such as http://foo.com/bar can be obtained by a
namespace name http://foo.com/b and a local name "ar":

<ar xmlns="http://foo.com/b"/>

This would of course be a bad practise and he was mentioning that he thought
the W3C should clearly forbid that.

My remark is that if <ar xmlns="http://foo.com/b"/> would be interpreted as
http://foo.com/bar, it would be serialised back as <bar
xmlns="http://foo.com/"/> (thus my comment about the fact that with these
"weird URIs", XML/RDF -> RDF store -> XML/RDF roundtrips would be still more
broken that it is generally the case).

That's all what I meant, nothing more :) ...


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