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Re: RDF Schema Creation Questions

From: David Pratt <fairwinds@eastlink.ca>
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:53:15 -0300
To: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
Cc: semantic-web@w3.org
Message-id: <B0094D9F-3689-11DA-B868-000A27B3B070@eastlink.ca>

Hi Danny.  This is a great link and very helpful for where I am at my 
Many thanks for the perspective offered here on validation.


On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 01:45 PM, Danny Ayers wrote:

> I *knew* there was a must-link-to thing on the topic of RDF &
> validation, it just clicked what it was - danbri's "Missing isn't
> broken":
> http://rdfweb.org/mt/foaflog/archives/2003/07/24/12.22.48/
> On 10/6/05, David Pratt <fairwinds@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Danny. Many thanks for your reply.  I was not aware of some of the
>> other tools, particularly the Altova tool.  I have used xml spy before
>> and it is very nice software.  I will likely try their product first
>> but will also look for a newer Protege. I don't think this one I am
>> using is any more than a couple of months old or so.
>> You're right about the W3C validator. It is really going to parse the
>> triples and tell me whether I have fatal syntax problems I believe.
>> I think first step is to to ensure it fits with rdf schema rules. I am
>> hopeful that Altova tool will help me and rise to the challenge.  I am
>> very happy for offers I have received to look at the schema.  If 
>> anyone
>> else is interested in looking at it, more feedback is better than less
>> so if interested please contact me.
>> I will take the first steps to see that it is valid etc before putting
>> it up so the version that goes up is my best effort. Then I will get
>> back to those that have offered to look at it to provide helpful
>> comments. I am very grateful to the list for this sort of feedback.
>> Regards,
>> David
>> On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Danny Ayers wrote:
>>> On 10/6/05, David Pratt <fairwinds@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>>> Hi.  I am writing an RDF schema but I have couple of questions. 
>>>> First,
>>>> it validates on W3C's RDF validator but seems to die when loading 
>>>> as a
>>>> new project in Protege so it has me concerned that there may be a
>>>> problem that I am not aware with my schema or that Protege may be
>>>> giving me grief. I am not sure which.  Can someone suggest an
>>>> alternative tool I could consider using that can read and validate 
>>>> my
>>>> index.rdf as a schema.
>>> Heh, I grumbled to the protege-owl folks a couple of weeks ago about
>>> Protege crashing when it loaded a certain file (the SKOS Core 
>>> schema).
>>> I've been assurred that they have been putting a lot of effort into
>>> stability (and I posted my apology for grumbling too hard last 
>>> night).
>>> If there's a newer build of Protege available, it might be worth a
>>> try.
>>> If you post your schema on the Web I'm sure someone will be willing 
>>> to
>>> check it out.
>>> The W3C validator is very handy, but there's only so far the notion 
>>> of
>>> validity can go in this context. The Pellet reasoner can do
>>> consistency checking:
>>> http://www.mindswap.org/2003/pellet/demo.shtml
>>> Other editing tools I'm aware of are RDFAuthor:
>>> http://rdfweb.org/people/damian/RDFAuthor/
>>> SWOOP :
>>> http://www.mindswap.org/2004/SWOOP/
>>> Altova SemanticWorks (pay-for, but there's a 30 day demo):
>>> http://www.altova.com/products_semanticworks.html
>>> Cheers,
>>> Danny.
>>> --
>>> http://dannyayers.com
> --
> http://dannyayers.com
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