- From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:57:25 +0200
- To: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, "Pete (UK) Kirkham" <pete.kirkham@baesystems.com>
- Cc: bloged <users@bloged.dev.java.net>, SWIG <semantic-web@w3.org>, semanticweb@sun.com
Oh, I just put together what you said, and what Danny made me say
concerning intensionality.
I think that if the annotations are used to generate code that hooks
into
an inferencing engine in the back you can easily get inferencing
behavior,
and so I believe the extensional behavior you are refering to. (Not
sure about
this).
This leads to some of the problems that I mentioned in a July e-mail:
<https://bloged.dev.java.net/servlets/ReadMsg?
list=users&msgNo=644>
Which I am not sure how to solve yet. But I'll get there I hope... :-)
Note: There I was using an ad hoc annotation schema for java 1.4 (I
should really
have used xdoclets I now realise). Clearly the current annoation
scheme I am
proposing is a lot more powerful, and easy to read.
Henry Story
On 25 Aug 2005, at 11:24, Kirkham, Pete (UK) wrote:
>
> In terms of representing intensional classes, yes. But such
> mechanisms do not easily allow extensional classes, which means you
> can't use them for classification of data, inference, etc, and so
> you can end up with a system based on the least common denominator
> of the two.
I said:
> Danny Ayers said:
>> Also what about the difference in class semantics, e.g. how would you
>> express this:
>>
>> X rdfs:subClassOf Y
>> Y rdfs:subClassOf X
>> =>
>> X owl:equivalentClass Y
>> but *not*
>> X owl:sameAs Y
>>
>
> Now you are going into real advanced details :-) Reading the spec
>
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-guide-20040210/
> #owl_equivalentClass>
>
> I understand that this is a distinction between what can be said in
> OWL DL and OWL Full.
> owl:sameAs is saying what in philosophy I believe we used to call
> intensional equivalence,
> ie we are taking meaning into account. (or something along those
> lines). owl:equivalentClass
> is extensional identity.
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