Re: Minutes for XSLT WG telcon of Thursday 2016-10-27

> 
> Two new action items:
> ACTION-2016-10-27-001: MKay to fix reference on RNC schema location (points to XSD currently)

Done.

> ACTION-2016-10-27-002: MKay to implement comment#0, #1 from bug 29960 on static error reporting

Done.

Michael Kay
Saxonica

> 
> Cheers,
> Abel
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Kay [mailto:mike@saxonica.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:04 AM
>> To: Public XSLWG
>> Subject: XSLT WG Agenda Thursday 2016-10-27
>> 
>> 60 minute telcon -
>> 
>> The XSL WG will meet on Thursday, 27 October 2016 for 60 minutes at the
>> START TIME as follows:
>> 
>> 09:00 a.m. Pacific Standard US/Canada,
>> 10:00 a.m. Mountain Standard US/Canada,
>> 11:00 a.m. Central Standard US/Canada,
>> 12:00 Eastern Standard US/Canada,
>> 17:00 UK, and
>> 18:00 for France, Germany, Sweden and Belgium
>> 
>> Joining WebEx calls:
>> 
>> Alternative 1:
>> 
>> 
>> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m57d9b3376912553a896dfa217bf3
>> 9f6d
>> 
>> When you follow the link above, if WebEx asks for a "room number", enter
>> the access code: 648 089 706. WebEx then asks for your name and email
>> address. Then the WebEx starts.
>> Meeting password: xslwg
>> 
>> Alternative 2:
>> 
>> Audio connection:
>> +1-617-324-0000 US Toll Number
>> 
>> Access code: 648 089 706
>> 
>> Alternative 3:
>> 
>> Mobile Auto Dial:+1-617-324-0000,,,648089706#
>> 
>> Participants are also encouraged to join IRC channel #xsl. The web interface
>> for IRC is available at http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
>> <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc>
>> <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-
>> irc>>.
>> 
>> 
>> AGENDA:
>> 
>> Chair: MHK
>> 
>> 
>> 1 Roll call - Need manual roll call
> 
> Anders
> Mike Kay
> Luis
> Charles
> Carine
> Abel
> 
> Regrets from MSMcQ, Sharon 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2 Assign minute-taker  - need volunteer
> 
> Abel takes minutes
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 3 Approval of previous minutes.
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-wg/2016Oct/0018.html
> 
> Minutes approved as written.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 4. Review of actions
>> 
>> ACTION-2015-11-19-002 MHK to ensure that the build system creates up-to-
>> date namespace documents  for the XSLT and MAP namespaces.
>> Pending - lower priority
> 
> Remains pending
> 
>> 
>> ACTION 2016-10-06-001: CB to try generating HTML 5 versions of XSLT and
>> possibly Serialization spec to see if they conform to the new rules.
> 
> No progress, new ETA: 3 Nov, 2016.
> 
> 
>> 
>> ACTION 2016-10-20-001: ABr to add example from his mail of 29 September,
>> as corrected in MK's response of 20 October to the test suite.
> 
> ETA: 3 Nov, 2016.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-wg/2016Sep/0028.html
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-wg/2016Oct/0014.html
>> ACTION 2016-10-20-002: ABr to open a Bugzilla entry suggesting detailed spec
>> changes needed to meet the requirement to allow processor modes which
>> do not raise all possible static errors (following on from our discussion of the
>> thread starting at
>> 
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-wg/2016Oct/0002.html
>> ).
> 
> Done, by Mike (he hijacked the action), see bug 29960, to be discussed today (bottom of agenda)
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 5 Other administrative business
>> 
>> 5.1 Review of agenda - items to be added to Agenda?
>> 
>> 5.2 Telcon schedule -
>>   SCA is unavailable for 20 Oct. telcon and 27 Oct. telcon.
>>   Note: dates have changed but MKay has been asked to chair.
>> 
>> Note that next week, Nov 3, the slot will be one hour earlier for participants
>> in Europe (and the UK!)
> 
> Nov 3, Europeans join an hour earlier: UK 4PM and NL/FR 5PM.
> 
>> 
>> 5.3 Report on joint work - MKay, Abel
> 
> No news to mention.
> 
>> 
>> 6. Email discussions.
>> 
>> 
>> 6.1  Invocation variants.
>> See MK ACTION 2016-09-29-003:
>> See also ACTION 2016-09-29-004: Abel to propose a table as described in
>> #9 in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-wg/2016Sep/0001.html
>> To be skipped until Abel action item is completed
>> 
>> We decided that progress on this topic requires someone to have a
>> substantial amount of time thinking in a quiet room; we postponed further
>> discussion until that happens.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 7. XSLT Draft
>> 
>> The diff version is at the usual location.
>> 
>> Published CR: http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-xslt-30-20151119/
> 
> Mike Kay published a new internal WD today.
> 
> ACTION-2016-10-27-001: MKay to fix reference on RNC schema location (points to XSD currently)
> 
>> 
>> Internal version:
>> https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-
>> 30/html/Overview.html
>> W3C Candidate Recommendation 11 September 2016
>> 
>> 8. Spec bugs
>> 
>> 29790 [xslt30] Sample stylesheet for xml-to-json conversion uses a reserved
>> namespace
>>     Reclassified as editorial - Bug left open until the revised
>>      version is tested.
>>  In process.
> 
> Leaving the bug open while work is continuing on fixing bugs in the xml-to-json stylesheet.
> 
>> 
>> 29819 [XSLT30] (editorial) Core functions
>>     People were asked to review G.1 (when the draft containing that
>>  text becomes available).
> 
> We discussed the table now available in section G.1.
> 
> ABr suggests to add a column for "Core Functions".
> MK thinks about using a different term for "Core functions" and that we should look into redefining this term, possibly either a different name or a different way of classification.
> ABr suggests to define it in terms of exclusion, instead of inclusion, as there's only a small list of functions that is excluded here (some XSLT functions mainly).
> 
> No conclusion was reached, albeit that MKay considers this bug report a "work in progress" and we should revisit once it has been finished.
> 
>> 
>> 29827 [XSLT 3.0] Error XTDE0045 revisited
>>     https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29827
> 
> We briefly discussed xsl:initial-template whether or not it can be private *and* be the entry point. The spec seems to allow it, albeit it nitpicking on the choice of words currently used for XTDE0040.
> 
> We then decided that more discussion is needed for this and related invocation bugs, and to move on for now.
> 
>> 
>> 29889 [xslt30] Add clarifications on stylesheet invocation options
>>     https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29889
>>     Is further discussion needed?
> 
> Further discussion needed, in tandem with the other invocation options issues (29827 for instance)
> 
>> 
>> 29938 [XSLT30] Suggestion to drop XTDE1370 and XTDE1380 to bring them in
>> line with XDM 3.0
>>     https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29938
> 
> The WG agreed to close this issue as WONTFIX, for the reasons mentioned in the bug report comment #1, #2 and #3.
>> 
>> 29957 [XSLT30] Non-schema-aware processors and schema-attribute and
>> schema-element node tests: error or not?
>> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29957
>> 
>> 9. Testing
>> 
>> 12 bugs open in bugzilla.
> 
> ADDED to agenda:
> 
> Bug 29960 - [xslt3.0] On the need to report static errors
>> From ACTION 2016-10-20-002.
> 
> The WG discussed this bug report, which was the result of an action item (to come up with wording for static error reporting in cases where it is feasible to ignore parts of the stylesheet which may lead to ignoring some errors).
> 
> The WG agreed in principle with the proposed text and the suggestions made in comment#1
> 
> 29960: DECISION the wg accepted the proposal in comment#0 and comment#1 on static errors reporting
> 
> ACTION-2016-10-27-002: MKay to implement comment#0, #1 from bug 29960 on static error reporting
> 
> 
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