DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #669 Agenda 2017-07-11

DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #669 Agenda 2017-07-11


Andy will chair this meeting.

PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED 
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!

Changes in this agenda:



This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.2 (F&O)
J4.3 (Serialization)
J4.6 (Test Suite)


Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting


Teleconference connection details
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(Member only)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html



SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during 
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.

Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent.  The subject of the 
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if 
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles.  If a 
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must 
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in 
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new 
production>", or the like.  It should be possible to read a decision 
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was 
properly applied.


NEW ACTION ITEMS
================
Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during 
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.

Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that 
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were 
assigned).  This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", 
"that") be made clear.  Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this 
problem" are DISALLOWED.  It takes a scribe only a few additional 
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire 
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear 
action items.  The subject of the action item should *not* require 
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are 
accompanied by their titles.



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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items

J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)

Abel has been asked to take the minutes.  O'Neil has been asked to stand 
by.


NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the 
meeting.


Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each 
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose 
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the 
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then 
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.

Abel Braaksma       - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28
O'Neil Delpratt     - 2016-11-29, 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-12-06, 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07
Michael Dyck        - 2017-01-10, 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14
Liam Quin           - 2017-01-17, 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13
Josh Spiegel        - 2017-01-31, 2016-11-01, 2016-07-19
Jonathan Robie      - 2017-03-07, 2016-11-08, 2016-07-05
Mike Kay            - 2017-06-13, 2016-11-15, 2016-07-26



J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE

Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex 
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent 
regrets.  All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.


XML Query WG membership list: 
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org

XSL WG membership list: 
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org


Regrets:




J1.3 Approval of agenda

J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?



J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items

J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #668 (Mike)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2017Jun/0002.html


J1.5 Review of action items

NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!

J1.5.1 Outstanding action items


ACTION A-668-01 (Bug 30119 - command element in HTML5) Andy and MSMcQ to 
draft an erratum and close the bug as proposed.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-668-02 (Bug 30119 - command element in HTML5) Josh to fix the 
test case Serialization-html-2 referred to in the bug report.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-668-03 MHK to add a new feature flag to the test suite indicating 
tests that require HTTP access, and to mark test case fn-unparsed-text-054 
with this flag.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-668-04 Josh to fix the expected result of test case 
Serialization-html-19c as suggested in bug 30120.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-668-06 Andy and MSMcQ to fix the bug referred to in action 
A-668-05.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.



J1.5.2 Completed action items


ACTION A-657-12: ABr to create more tests for fn:transform, as he 
describes in bug 29834

Status: Closed; Overtaken: MHK has revised the transform tests.


ACTION A-661-04 (Bug 29997) AB to fix up the dependencies on the 
fn:transform tests and if appropriate resubmit results.

Status: Closed; Overtaken: MHK has revised the transform tests.


ACTION A-662-04: MikeKay to investigate bug 29932

Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29932#c6


ACTION A-663-02: MK to respond to original commentor (Thomas Fischer)
w.r.t. our decision on bug 30025 "[F+O3.1] array:join() - misleading
name" (WORKSFORME).

Status: Closed; action dropped


ACTION A-663-03: MK to respond to original commentor w.r.t. our
decision on bug 30024 "[F+O 3.1] Is map:entry superfluous?" (FIXED).

Status: Closed; action dropped


ACTION A-668-05 Josh to raise a bug pointing out that some namespaces in 
the Serialization spec have been mis-edited to use "https" rather than 
"http".

Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30126


ACTION A-668-07 Andy to cause the two documents (XQuery Scripting 
Extension 1.0 (Use Cases | Requirements)) to be republished as WG Notes.

Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-sx-10-use-cases/
https://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-sx-10-requirements/



J1.6 Update on related activities

J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)



J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)



J1.7 Future Meetings

J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule

[V48] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Feb/0000.html



J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings

J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings

(none)


J2. Documents For Review

(none)



J3. Maintenance Issues

J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs 
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches 
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems 
reported against the 3.1 suite of specifications.


J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and 
XSLT WG documents

(none)



J4. Active Specification Development


** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.



J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Andy)

J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)

J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt


J4.2.1 Bug 30133 - [FO31]Example in 
https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions-31/#func-exists is incomplete
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30133

Status: Ready to discuss



J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)

J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt


J4.3.1 Bug 30128 - POLYGLOT namespace declarations
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30128

Status: Ready to discuss



J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)

J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)

(none)


J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)

J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools


J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results

Status: Currently five implementers submitted results


J4.6.3 Bug 30135 - [qt3ts] version_declaration-021
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30135

Status: Ready to discuss



J5. Progression of Work

J5.1 XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 
3.1

J5.1.1 Current status

* Recommendation


J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression


J5.2 Update 3.0

J5.2.1 Current Status

* Working Group Note

Insufficient resources and interest to continue development



J6. Any other business

J6.1 Consideration of future work

J6.1.1 QT 3.2

The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications. 


J6.1.2 FT 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources


J6.1.3 Update 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources



J7. Adjourn




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XML Query Working Group
=======================

Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, 
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other 
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of 
specifications.


Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents

(none)



Q2. Active Specification Development

Q2.1 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)

Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


Q2.2 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)

Q2.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


Q3. Test Suite Development

Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)

* Need test suite developer/manager

* Need tests 



Q4. Any other business



Q5. Adjourn





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