- From: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:52:49 +0100
- To: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-xsl-query@w3.org
- Message-Id: <370758BF-5988-4AC8-82D6-0E577AB1E8FB@saxonica.com>
With bugzilla down, the call is going to be difficult. Is everyone having the same problem? MK > On 24 Jun 2016, at 12:50, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com> wrote: > > DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #648 Agenda 2016-06-28 > > > Andy will chair this meeting. > > PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED > AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! > > Changes in this agenda: > > > > This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: > J4.3 (Serialization) > J4.4 (XPath) > J4.6 (Test suite) > > > Key: > J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; > Q = Query-only meeting > > > Teleconference connection details > --------------------------------- > > (Member only) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html> > > > > SUMMARY OF DECISIONS > ==================== > Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the > decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if > agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a > decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must > state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in > comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new > production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision > months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was > properly applied. > > > NEW ACTION ITEMS > ================ > Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that > is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were > assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", > "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this > problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional > minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire > WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear > action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require > dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are > accompanied by their titles. > > > > =================================================== > Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group > =================================================== > > > J1. Administrative Items > > J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) > > Josh has been asked to take the minutes. Abel has been asked to stand by. > > > NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the > meeting. > > > Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): > ---------------------------------------------------------- > (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each > participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose > name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the > meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then > the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. > > Josh Spiegel - 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08 > Abel Braaksma - > Jonathan Robie - 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29 > O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02, 2015-10-27 > Mike Kay - 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01, 2015-11-10 > Liam Quin - 2016-05-03, 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06 > Tim Mills - 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22, 2015-12-08 > John Snelson - 2016-05-24, 2016-01-12, 2015-07-16 > Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03 > Michael Dyck - 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17 > Adam Retter - 2016-06-21, 2016-01-26, 2015-10-20 > > > > J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE > > Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex > participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent > regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. > > > XML Query WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org> > > XSL WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org> > > > Regrets: > > > > > J1.3 Approval of agenda > > J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? > > > > J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items > > J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #647 (Adam) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0058.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0058.html> > with amendment of attendance list: > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0059.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0059.html> > > > J1.5 Review of action items > > NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! > > J1.5.1 Outstanding action items > > > ACTION A-641-11 (bug 29592) (array and map prefixes). Action on Tim to resolve the issue in the way suggested in the bug report. > > Status: Progressing; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-645-05: Serialization editors (AC, MSM) to discuss bug 29664 > offline and come back with a proposal. > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-06-28 > > > ACTION A-645-06: Serialization editors (AC, MSM) to come back with a > proposal for bug 29665. > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-06-28 > > > ACTION A-645-08: TM to test the schema prepared by MSM to address the > issue raised in bug 29658. (Depends on action A-645-07.) > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-645-09: JS to test the schema prepared by MSM to address the > issue raised in bug 29658. (Depends on action A-645-07.) > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-646-02: JRobie to make the changes outlined in bug 29683 > comments 2 and 3 (re map lookup). > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-06-28 > > > ACTION A-646-06: Jonathan to add comment 0 of bug 29622 to the XPath spec. > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-06-28 > > > ACTION A-647-01 Michael Kay to close bug > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555> and resolve, by > updating the spec in alignment with his comments #15 and #16. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-647-02 Jonathan Robie to accept the change in comment #2 of bug > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29693 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29693> from Abel > Braaskma. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-647-03 O'Neil Delpratt to remove "MAY" tests described in bug > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29625 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29625> and close the > bug. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-647-04 Michael Kay to remove the function call to local:test() in > the test described by bug > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29597 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29597>. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-647-05 Tim Mills to make the changes to the test as described in bug > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29676 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29676>. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-647-06 O'Neill Delpratt to remove test resolve-uri-28 describer in > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381>. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-647-07 Jonathan Robie to change the spec to add Tim's proposal in > comment #21 of bug > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29586 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29586>. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > > J1.5.2 Completed action items > > > ACTION A-640-04: Jonathan Robie to resolve Bug #29277 by making the changes from comment #20 items 2 and 5. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0045.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0045.html> > > > ACTION A-641-04 (bug 29277) Jonathan to make the editorial changes needed. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0045.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0045.html> > > > ACTION A-643-01: MikeK to update proposal on Bug 29555. > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555#c15 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555#c15> > > > ACTION A-643-05: Andy to investigate how to solve Q2.3.2 Bug 29610 - > Differing namespace definitions for xqt-errors. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0061.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0061.html> > > > ACTION A-645-07: MSM to prepare a schema with a workaround for the > issue reported in bug 29658 and post it. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0047.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0047.html> > > > ACTION A-645-10: OND to test the schema prepared by MSM to address the > issue raised in bug 29658. (Depends on action A-645-07.) > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0047.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0047.html> > > > ACTION A-646-03: JRobie to add CMSMcQ's Note from the 646 minutes > to the XPath spec. > > Status: Closed; Reported in last meeting > > > ACTION A-646-05: Tim to clarify the changes he's proposing for bug 29586 > (subtype-itemtype). > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0040.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0040.html> > > > > J1.6 Update on related activities > > J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) > > > > J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) > > > > J1.7 Future Meetings > > J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule > > [V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Apr/0000.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Apr/0000.html> > > > > J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings > > J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings > > (none) > > > J2. Documents For Review > > (none) > > > > J3. Maintenance Issues > > J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs > earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches > Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems > reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. > > > J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential > completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 > > Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. > Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG > consultation. > > > J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and > XSLT WG documents > > (none) > > > > J4. Active Specification Development > > > ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. > If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two > independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), > then this can be brought back on the agenda. > > > > J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) > > J4.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) > > J4.2.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) > > J4.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt> > > > J4.3.1 Bug 29664 - [SER31] 9.1.17 JSON Output Method: the json-node-output-method Parameter > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29664 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29664> > > Status: Pending completion of A-645-05 > > > J4.3.2 Bug 29665 - [SER31] JSON escaping > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29665 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29665> > > Status: Pending completion of A-645-06 > > > J4.3.3 Bug 29703 - [SER31] Bring the yes/no etc of the serialization-parameters schema in line with the way booleans are treated in XSLT's xsl:output > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29703 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29703> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) > > J4.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> > > > J4.4.1 Bug 29700 - [XP31] ws:explicit wording on comments is a tad unfortunate > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29700 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29700> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) > > (none) > > > J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) > > J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools > > > J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results > > Status: Currently three implementers submitted results > > > > J5. Progression of Work > > J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, > Serialization 3.1 > > J5.1.1 Current status > > * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports > > > J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > > J5.2 Update 3.0 > > J5.2.1 Current Status > > * In Last Call Working Draft > > At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite > > > J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request > > * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > > J6. Any other business > > J6.1 Consideration of future work > > J6.1.1 QT 3.2 > > The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, > but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a > period of time after finishing the specifications. > > > J6.1.2 FT 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > J6.1.3 Update 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > > J7. Adjourn > > > > > ======================= > XML Query Working Group > ======================= > > Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the > 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, > maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other > problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of > specifications. > > > Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents > > (none) > > > > Q2. Active Specification Development > > Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) > > Q2.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt> > > * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. > > > Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) > See > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> > > * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed > (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to > be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. > > > Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) > > Q2.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) > > Q2.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt> > > > (none) > > > Q3. Test Suite Development > > Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) > > * Need test suite developer/manager > > * Need tests > > > > Q4. Any other business > > > > Q5. Adjourn > > >
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