- From: Josh Spiegel <josh.spiegel@oracle.com>
- Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:03:38 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>, Public Joint XSLT XQuery XPath <public-xsl-query@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4FDA7BA0-1F94-4B09-95DB-7341750E7C23@oracle.com>
Sorry, I also have to send regrets once again. Thanks, Josh > On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com> wrote: > > Sorry, but I have to send apologies for Tuesday. I will be in the dentist's chair. > > I'll try to make sure I add comments to the two F+O bugs. > > Michael Kay > Saxonica > > >> On 8 Jul 2016, at 14:21, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com <mailto:andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>> wrote: >> >> DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #650 Agenda 2016-07-12 >> >> >> Andy will chair this meeting. >> >> PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED >> AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! >> >> Changes in this agenda: >> >> >> >> This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: >> J4.2 (F&O) >> J4.3 (Serialization) >> J4.4 (XPath) >> J4.6 (Test suite) >> >> >> Key: >> J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; >> Q = Query-only meeting >> >> >> Teleconference connection details >> --------------------------------- >> >> (Member only) >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html> >> >> >> >> SUMMARY OF DECISIONS >> ==================== >> Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during >> this teleconference at this location in the minutes. >> >> Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the >> decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if >> agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a >> decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must >> state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in >> comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new >> production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision >> months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was >> properly applied. >> >> >> NEW ACTION ITEMS >> ================ >> Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during >> this teleconference at this location in the minutes. >> >> Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that >> is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were >> assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", >> "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this >> problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional >> minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire >> WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear >> action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require >> dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are >> accompanied by their titles. >> >> >> >> =================================================== >> Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group >> =================================================== >> >> >> J1. Administrative Items >> >> J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) >> >> Josh has been asked to take the minutes. O'Neil has been asked to stand by. >> >> >> NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the >> meeting. >> >> >> Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each >> participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose >> name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the >> meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then >> the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. >> >> Josh Spiegel - 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08 >> O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02, 2015-10-27 >> Mike Kay - 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01, 2015-11-10 >> Liam Quin - 2016-05-03, 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06 >> Tim Mills - 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22, 2015-12-08 >> John Snelson - 2016-05-24, 2016-01-12, 2015-07-16 >> Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03 >> Michael Dyck - 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17 >> Adam Retter - 2016-06-21, 2016-01-26, 2015-10-20 >> Abel Braaksma - 2016-06-27 >> Jonathan Robie - 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05 >> >> >> >> J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE >> >> Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex >> participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent >> regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. >> >> >> XML Query WG membership list: >> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org> >> >> XSL WG membership list: >> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org> >> >> >> Regrets: >> >> >> >> >> J1.3 Approval of agenda >> >> J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? >> >> >> >> J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items >> >> J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #649 (Jonathan) >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0005.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0005.html> >> >> >> J1.5 Review of action items >> >> NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! >> >> J1.5.1 Outstanding action items >> >> >> ACTION A-645-09: JS to test the schema prepared by MSM to address the >> issue raised in bug 29658. (Depends on action A-645-07.) >> >> Status: Pending; ETA not specified. >> >> >> ACTION A-646-02: JRobie to make the changes outlined in bug 29683 >> comments 2 and 3 (re map lookup). >> >> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-07-12 >> >> >> ACTION A-647-01 Michael Kay to close bug >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555> and resolve, by >> updating the spec in alignment with his comments #15 and #16. >> >> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-07-19 >> >> >> ACTION A-647-07 Jonathan Robie to change the spec to add Tim's proposal in >> comment #21 of bug >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29586 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29586>. >> >> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-07-12 >> >> >> ACTION A-649-02: Jonathan to add the text "Comments are also not allowed in these productions except where the Comment non-terminal appears." >> as the resolution of Bug 29700. >> >> Status: Pending; ETA not specified. >> >> >> ACTION A-649-03: mdyck to resolve Bug 29702 at his discretion. >> >> Status: Pending; ETA not specified. >> >> >> ACTION A-649-04: Abel to report test results. >> >> Status: Pending; ETA not specified. >> >> >> >> J1.5.2 Completed action items >> >> >> ACTION A-645-05: Serialization editors (AC, MSM) to discuss bug 29664 >> offline and come back with a proposal. >> >> Status: Closed; See >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0007.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0007.html> >> >> >> ACTION A-645-06: Serialization editors (AC, MSM) to come back with a >> proposal for bug 29665. >> >> Status: Closed; See >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0007.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0007.html> >> >> >> ACTION A-645-08: TM to test the schema prepared by MSM to address the >> issue raised in bug 29658. (Depends on action A-645-07.) >> >> Status: Closed; See >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0001.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0001.html> >> >> >> ACTION A-648-01: MSM: in the Serialization XSD, fix the whitespace and make it MSXML4 compatible and fix any other issues that were raised in that thread (see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0078.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jun/0078.html>) >> >> Status: Closed; See >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0004.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0004.html> >> >> >> ACTION A-648-02: O'Neil to generate a test report running only XQ31 and XP31 tests and to report internally before publishing >> >> Status: Closed; See >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html> >> >> >> ACTION A-649-01: Andy to implement the resolution of Bug 29703. ETA 2016-07-12. >> >> Status: Closed; See >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0008.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jul/0008.html> >> >> >> >> >> J1.6 Update on related activities >> >> J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) >> >> >> >> J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) >> >> >> >> J1.7 Future Meetings >> >> J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule >> >> [V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Apr/0000.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Apr/0000.html> >> >> >> >> J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings >> >> J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings >> >> (none) >> >> >> J2. Documents For Review >> >> (none) >> >> >> >> J3. Maintenance Issues >> >> J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs >> earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches >> Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. >> >> This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems >> reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. >> >> >> J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential >> completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 >> >> Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. >> Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG >> consultation. >> >> >> J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and >> XSLT WG documents >> >> (none) >> >> >> >> J4. Active Specification Development >> >> >> ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. >> If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two >> independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), >> then this can be brought back on the agenda. >> >> >> >> J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) >> >> J4.1.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt> >> >> (none) >> >> >> J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) >> >> J4.2.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt> >> >> >> J4.2.1 Bug 29722 - [FO31] fn:sort, array:sort >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29722 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29722> >> >> Status: Ready to discuss >> >> >> J4.2.2 Bug 29723 - [FO31] map:merge >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29723 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29723> >> >> Status: Ready to discuss >> >> >> >> J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) >> >> J4.3.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt> >> >> >> J4.3.1 Bug 29664 - [SER31] 9.1.17 JSON Output Method: the json-node-output-method Parameter >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29664 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29664> >> >> Status: Ready to discuss >> >> >> J4.3.2 Bug 29665 - [SER31] JSON escaping >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29665 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29665> >> >> Status: Ready to discuss >> >> >> >> J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) >> >> J4.4.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> >> >> >> J4.4.1 Bug 29721 - [XP31] Duplicate error conditions >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29721 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29721> >> >> Status: Ready to discuss >> >> >> >> J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) >> >> (none) >> >> >> J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) >> >> J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools >> >> >> J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results >> >> Status: Currently three implementers submitted results >> >> >> >> J5. Progression of Work >> >> J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, >> Serialization 3.1 >> >> J5.1.1 Current status >> >> * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports >> >> * Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0 >> >> >> J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression >> >> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory >> >> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof >> >> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters >> >> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request >> >> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request >> >> >> >> J5.2 Update 3.0 >> >> J5.2.1 Current Status >> >> * In Last Call Working Draft >> >> At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. >> >> Status: Ready to discuss >> >> >> >> J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite >> >> >> J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression >> >> * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request >> >> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory >> >> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof >> >> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters >> >> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request >> >> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request >> >> >> >> J6. Any other business >> >> J6.1 Consideration of future work >> >> J6.1.1 QT 3.2 >> >> The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, >> but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a >> period of time after finishing the specifications. >> >> >> J6.1.2 FT 3.1 >> >> Currently inadequate interest and resources >> >> >> J6.1.3 Update 3.1 >> >> Currently inadequate interest and resources >> >> >> >> J7. Adjourn >> >> >> >> >> ======================= >> XML Query Working Group >> ======================= >> >> Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the >> 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, >> maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. >> >> Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other >> problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of >> specifications. >> >> >> Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents >> >> (none) >> >> >> >> Q2. Active Specification Development >> >> Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) >> >> Q2.1.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt> >> >> * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. >> >> >> Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) >> See >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> >> >> * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed >> (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to >> be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. >> >> >> Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) >> >> Q2.3.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> >> >> (none) >> >> >> Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) >> >> Q2.4.0 Internal working draft >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html> >> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt> >> >> >> (none) >> >> >> Q3. Test Suite Development >> >> Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) >> >> * Need test suite developer/manager >> >> * Need tests >> >> >> >> Q4. Any other business >> >> >> >> Q5. Adjourn >> >> >> >> >> Unless stated otherwise above: >> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. >> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU >
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