Minutes, XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #631 Agenda 2016-01-26

SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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DECISION: Andy to close Bug 28319 as it works for Abel.


NEW ACTION ITEMS
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ACTION A-631-1: Jonathan Robie to propose a reformulation of XPath 3.1
section 3.1.5.1, bullet-points 2 and 5
ACTION A-631-2: Jonathan Robie to make the changes in XPath 3.1 as
suggested by Michael Dyck in Bug 29382

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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items

J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)

Adam has been asked to take the minutes. O'Neil has been asked to stand by.


NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
meeting.


Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.

O'Neil Delpratt     - 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03
Mike Kay            - 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14
Michael Dyck        - 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31
Josh Spiegel        - 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24
Tim Mills           - 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21
Norm Walsh          - 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05
Jonathan Robie      - 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29, 2015-05-12
John Snelson        - 2015-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02
Liam Quin           - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16
Adam Retter         - 2015-01-26, 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21


J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE

Michael Sperberg-McQueen
Jonathan Robie
Carine
Tim Mills
Adam Retter
Abel Braaksma
Andy Coleman
Michael Dyck


XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org

XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org


Regrets:

Josh Spiegel
Michael Kay
O'Neil Delpratt


J1.3 Approval of agenda

J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?

Approved.


J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items

J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #630 (Liam)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0023.html

Minutes accepted.



J1.5 Review of action items

NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!

J1.5.1 Outstanding action items


Action A-628-01: Liam to discuss the status of XQuery Update 3.0 at XML Prague.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-13


ACTION A-629-01: Jonathan Robie to propose some clarification text to
resolve bug 29277.

Status: Closed.


ACTION A-629-02: Jonathan Robie to apply the clarification from the
comment 12 of bug 29346 to the spec.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02


ACTION A-629-03: Abel to write test cases for the resolution to bug 29346.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02


ACTION A-629-04: Jonathan Robie to fix bug 29362 by referring to the
definition of op:same-key in F&O

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02


ACTION A-630-01: Mike Kay to propose a resolution on 29373 Missing error code
when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-630-02: O'Neil to remove reporting of the features that aren't in 3.1
(static typing, namespace axis) and tests that are not for 3.1
(e.g. 3.0 or XPath)

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-630-06: jonathan to check the wordin to make validate {} an
error [bug 29370]g

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02



J1.5.2 Completed action items

ACTION A-627-01: Michael Kay to publish a new F&O with the approved
revised definition of fn:transform

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jan/0021.html


ACTION A-629-05: Josh to apply the changes in comment 1 of bug 29364.

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html


ACTION A-629-06: Josh to apply the changes in comment 0 of bug 29365.

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html


ACTION A-630-03: Josh to change xml-to-json-048 to return XQDY0027 as
per bug 29381

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html


ACTION A-630-04: Michael Dyck to fix grammar to make validate {} an
error [bug 29370];

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0027.html


ACTION A-630-05: josh to remove tests for empty validate expression {}
[bug 29370]

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html



J1.6 Update on related activities

J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)



J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)



J1.7 Future Meetings

J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule

[V44] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html


J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings

J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings

None scheduled.


J2. Documents For Review

(none)



J3. Maintenance Issues

J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.


J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1

Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
        Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
        consultation.


J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents

J3.1.1 Bugzilla Bug 24568, Is the type system really a lattice? Or just
a partially ordered set?
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568

Status: Fixed in Data Model 3.1; not expected to be addressed in Data
Model 3.0


J3.1.2 Bugzilla Bug 25231, [F+O 3.0 ONLY], ISO 8601, and XSD 1.1
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231

Status: Fixed in F&O 3.1; not expected to be addressed in F&O 3.0


J3.1.3 Bugzilla Bug 26788, [XPath30] XQuery-only errors in XPath 3.0
specification, like XQST0134"
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788

Status: Fixed in XPath 3.1; not expected to be addressed in XPath 3.0



J4. Active Specification Development


** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.



J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)

J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)

J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt


J4.2.1 Bug 29373 - Missing error code when fn:serialize receives a
QName method in no namespace
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29373

Status: Pending completion of A-630-01


J4.2.2 Bug 28319 - [FO30] (and [FO31]) Text on least common type and
conversion in fn:min and fn:max ambiguous
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28319

Status: Closed. Acceptable by Abel.



J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)

J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)

J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt


J4.4.1 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention
evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no
FunctionBody
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277

Status: Pending completion of A-629-01

ACTION A-631-1: Jonathan Robie to propose a reformulation in XPath 3.1
section 3.1.5.1, bullet-points 2 and 5


J4.4.2 Bug 29382 - [XP31] semantics of an 'empty' FunctionBody
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29382

Status: Pending

ACTION A-631-2: Jonathan Robie to make the changes in XPath 3.1 as
suggested by Michael Dyck in Bug 29382


J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)

J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
applets
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796

Status: Pending



J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)

J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools


J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results

Status: Currently three implementers submitted results


J4.6.3 Bug 29381 - [QT3] resolve-uri-28 expects error FORG0002, but
seems valid according to RFC-3986
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381

Status: Ready to discuss



J5. Progression of Work

J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
Serialization 3.1

J5.1.1 Current status

* In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports


J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression

* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory

* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof

* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters

* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request

* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request



J5.2 Update 3.0

J5.2.1 Current Status

* In Last Call Working Draft


J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite


J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression

* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request

* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory

* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof

* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters

* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request

* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request



J6. Any other business

J6.1 Consideration of future work

J6.1.1 QT 3.2

The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.


J6.1.2 FT 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources


J6.1.3 Update 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources



J7. Adjourn




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XML Query Working Group
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Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.

Status: Pending completion of ACTION A-592-02.

Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents

(none)



Q2. Active Specification Development

Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)

Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt

* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.


Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html

* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.


Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)

Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)

Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt

(none)



Q3. Test Suite Development

Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)

* Need test suite developer/manager

* Need tests



Q4. Any other business



Q5. Adjourn


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