Minutes, XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #630 Agenda 2016-01-19

SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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DECISION: bug 29374 closed WORKSFORME (name of fn:transform function)
DECISION: change xml-to-json-048 to report XQDY0027 as per bug 29381
DECISION: make an empty validate expression { } a syntax error [bug 29370]
DECISION: change xml-to-json-048 to report XQDY0027 as per bug 29381


NEW ACTION ITEMS
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ACTION A-630-01: Mike Kay to propose a resolution on 29373 Missing error code
when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace

ACTION A-630-02: O'Neil to remove reporting of the features that aren't in 3.1
(static typing, namespace axis) and tests that are not for 3.1
(e.g. 3.0 or XPath)

ACTION A-630-03: Josh to change xml-to-json-048 to return XQDY0027 as per bug 29381

ACTION A-630-04: Michael Dyck to fix grammar to make validate {} an error [bug 29370];

ACTION A-630-05: josh to remove tests for empty validate expression {} [bug 29370]

ACTION A-630-06: jonathan to check the wordin to make validate {} an error [bug 29370]g

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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items

J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)

Liam has been asked to take the minutes. Adam has been asked to stand by.



Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.

Adam Retter         - 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21, 2015-01-20
O'Neil Delpratt     - 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03
Mike Kay            - 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14
Michael Dyck        - 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31
Josh Spiegel        - 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24
Tim Mills           - 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21
Norm Walsh          - 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05
Jonathan Robie      - 2016-01-05, 2015-10-29, 2015-05-12
John Snelson        - 2016-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02
Liam Quin           - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16



J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE

Liam Quin
Abel Braaksma
Andy Coleman
Michael Sperberg-McQueen
John Snelson
Jonathan Robie
Josh Spiegel
Michael Dyck
Michael Kay
Norman Walsh
O'Neil Delpratt
Tim Mills

XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org

XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org

Regrets:


J1.3 Approval of agenda

J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?

Approved.



J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items

J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #629 (John)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0015.html

Accepted.


J1.5 Review of action items

NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!

J1.5.1 Outstanding action items


ACTION A-627-01: Michael Kay to publish a new F&O with the approved
revised definition of fn:transform

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-19

done, see
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jan/0021.html


Action A-628-01: Liam to discuss the status of XQuery Update 3.0 at XML
Prague.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-13


ACTION A-629-01: Jonathan Robie to propose some clarification text to
resolve bug 29277.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26


ACTION A-629-02: Jonathan Robie to apply the clarification from the
comment 12 of bug 29346 to the spec.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-629-03: Abel to write test cases for the resolution to bug 29346.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26


ACTION A-629-04: Jonathan Robie to fix bug 29362 by referring to the
definition of op:same-key in F&O

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26


ACTION A-629-05: Josh to apply the changes in comment 1 of bug 29364.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26


ACTION A-629-06: Josh to apply the changes in comment 0 of bug 29365.

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26



J1.5.2 Completed action items


ACTION A-626-03: MKay to fix bug 27908 by modifying the test case to use
an invalid URI.  Bug 27908 - K2-SeqDocFunc-12
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27908

Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27908#c9


Action A-628-01: Jonathan to enter the following modification to
MDyck's proposal, into the Bug 29277 and ask Abel / Mike whether this
resolves the bug:

   1. The processor "makes the information available" as opposed to
      invoking using SC and DC
   2. The Note (which is non-normative).

   Replace the note with following normative text:

     An API used to invoke external functions must state whether the
     static and dynamic contexts are available to a function that is
     invoked. The F&O specification states how the static and dynamic
     contexts are available to a function that is invoked. A host
     language must state whether and how the static and dynamic
     contexts are available to a function that is invoked.

Status: Closed; Completed in the bug



J1.6 Update on related activities

J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)



J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)



J1.7 Future Meetings

J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule

[V44] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html


J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings

J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings

None scheduled.


J2. Documents For Review

(none)



J3. Maintenance Issues

J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.


J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1

Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
        Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
        consultation.


J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents

J3.1.1 Bugzilla Bug 24568, Is the type system really a lattice? Or just
a partially ordered set?
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568

Status: Fixed in Data Model 3.1; not expected to be addressed in Data
Model 3.0


J3.1.2 Bugzilla Bug 25231, [F+O 3.0 ONLY], ISO 8601, and XSD 1.1
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231

Status: Fixed in F&O 3.1; not expected to be addressed in F&O 3.0


J3.1.3 Bugzilla Bug 26788, [XPath30] XQuery-only errors in XPath 3.0
specification, like XQST0134"
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788

Status: Fixed in XPath 3.1; not expected to be addressed in XPath 3.0



J4. Active Specification Development


** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.



J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)

J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)

J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt


J4.2.1 Bug 29373 - Missing error code when fn:serialize receives a QName
method in no namespace
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29373

ACTION A-630-01: Mike Kay to propose a resolution on 29373 Missing error code
when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace


J4.2.2 Bug 29374 - fn:transform
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29374

DECISION: bug 29374 closed WORKSFORME (name of fn:transform function)



J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)

J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)

J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt


J4.4.1 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention
evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277

Status: Pending completion of A-629-01



J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)

J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
applets
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796

Status: Pending



J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)

J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools

http://dev.w3.org/2011/QT3-test-suite/ReportingResults31/report.html

Discussion on whether we need to present XPath results separately;
ths has not been needed in the past by the w3C Director.

Need to distinguish optional features (e.g. static typing) from
implementation-defined behaviours, e.g. formatting a number in Korean.

Mike Kay notes, we are seeing limited coverage of load-xquery-module,
fn:transform, static typing, namespace axis, but by and large reasonable
coverage elsewhere.

Namespace axis is deprecated; static typing is gone from the spec (maybe
should be dropped from the report)

ACTION A-630-02: O'Neil to remove reporting of the features that aren't in 3.1
(static typing, namespace axis) and tests that are not for 3.1
(e.g. 3.0 or XPath)

J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests

Status: Coverage is almost complete.


J4.6.3 Publication of test suite.

Status: Ready to discuss



J5. Progression of Work

J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
Serialization 3.1

J5.1.1 Current status

* In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports


J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression

* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory

* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof

* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters

* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request

* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request



J5.2 Update 3.0

J5.2.1 Current Status

* In Last Call Working Draft


J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite


J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression

* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request

* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory

* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof

* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters

* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request

* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request



J6. Any other business

Abel raised
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381

(too complex to discuss at short notice)

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29371
xml-to-json-048 expects wrong error code

Mike Kay notes, This test was updated wrongly and XQDY0027 should be allowed.

ACTION A-630-03: Josh to change xml-to-json-048 to return XQDY0027 as per bug 29381
DECISION: change xml-to-json-048 to report XQDY0027 as per bug 29381



J6.1 Consideration of future work

J6.1.1 QT 3.2

The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.


J6.1.2 FT 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources


J6.1.3 Update 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources



J7. Adjourn




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XML Query Working Group
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Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.

Status: Pending completion of ACTION A-592-02.

Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents

(none)



Q2. Active Specification Development

Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)

Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt

* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.


Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html

* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.


Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)

Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt


Q2.3.1 Bug 29370 - Optional Operand for Validate Expression
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29370

What to do if the optional operand to "validate as etc. was omitted.

Validate -
Jonathan suggests reverting the change for Validate but not for
ordered/unordered, as an empty sequence is an error for validate but
not for ordered/unordered.

The operand of validate has to be a node.

validate { () } is an error today.

validate type xs:decimal { $emp/salary }

DECISION make an empty validate expression { } a syntax error [bug 29370]
ACTION A-630-04: Michael Dyck to fix grammar to make validate {} an error [bug 29370];
ACTION A-630-05: josh to remove tests for empty validate expression {} [bug 29370]
ACTION A-630-06: jonathan to check the wordin to make validate {} an error [bug 29370]g



Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)

Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


Q3. Test Suite Development

Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)

* Need test suite developer/manager

* Need tests


Q4. Any other business

Q5. Adjourn


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