- From: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:04:00 +0000
- To: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-xsl-query@w3.org
- Message-Id: <2ECA3FC5-4A27-492E-8BA8-CA9BB7186F5C@saxonica.com>
My apologies, I will be away on Tuesday: family matters.
Michael Kay
Saxonica
> On 22 Jan 2016, at 12:58, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #631 Agenda 2016-01-26
>
>
> Andy will chair this meeting.
>
> PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
> AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
>
> Changes in this agenda:
>
>
>
> This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
> J4.2 (F&O)
> J4.4 (XPath)
> J4.6 (Test Suite)
>
>
> Key:
> J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
> Q = Query-only meeting
>
>
> Teleconference connection details
> ---------------------------------
>
> (Member only)
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html>
>
>
>
> SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
> ====================
> Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
> this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
>
> Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the
> decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
> agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a
> decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
> state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
> comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
> production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision
> months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
> properly applied.
>
>
> NEW ACTION ITEMS
> ================
> Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
> this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
>
> Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
> is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
> assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
> "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
> problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional
> minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
> WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
> action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require
> dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
> accompanied by their titles.
>
>
>
> ===================================================
> Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
> ===================================================
>
>
> J1. Administrative Items
>
> J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
>
> Adam has been asked to take the minutes. O'Neil has been asked to stand by.
>
>
> NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
> meeting.
>
>
> Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
> participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
> name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
> meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
> the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
>
> Adam Retter - 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21, 2015-01-20
> O'Neil Delpratt - 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17
> Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03
> Mike Kay - 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14
> Michael Dyck - 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31
> Josh Spiegel - 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24
> Tim Mills - 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21
> Norm Walsh - 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05
> Jonathan Robie - 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29, 2015-05-12
> John Snelson - 2015-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02
> Liam Quin - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16
>
>
>
> J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
>
> Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
> participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
> regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
>
>
> XML Query WG membership list:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org>
>
> XSL WG membership list:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org>
>
>
> Regrets:
>
>
>
>
> J1.3 Approval of agenda
>
> J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
>
>
>
> J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
>
> J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #630 (Liam)
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0023.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0023.html>
>
>
>
> J1.5 Review of action items
>
> NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
>
> J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
>
>
> Action A-628-01: Liam to discuss the status of XQuery Update 3.0 at XML Prague.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-13
>
>
> ACTION A-629-01: Jonathan Robie to propose some clarification text to resolve bug 29277.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26
>
>
> ACTION A-629-02: Jonathan Robie to apply the clarification from the comment 12 of bug 29346 to the spec.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26
>
>
> ACTION A-629-03: Abel to write test cases for the resolution to bug 29346.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26
>
>
> ACTION A-629-04: Jonathan Robie to fix bug 29362 by referring to the definition of op:same-key in F&O
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-01-26
>
>
> ACTION A-630-01: Mike Kay to propose a resolution on 29373 Missing error code
> when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-630-02: O'Neil to remove reporting of the features that aren't in 3.1
> (static typing, namespace axis) and tests that are not for 3.1
> (e.g. 3.0 or XPath)
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-630-06: jonathan to check the wordin to make validate {} an error [bug 29370]g
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
>
> J1.5.2 Completed action items
>
> ACTION A-627-01: Michael Kay to publish a new F&O with the approved
> revised definition of fn:transform
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jan/0021.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jan/0021.html>
>
>
> ACTION A-629-05: Josh to apply the changes in comment 1 of bug 29364.
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html>
>
>
> ACTION A-629-06: Josh to apply the changes in comment 0 of bug 29365.
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html>
>
>
> ACTION A-630-03: Josh to change xml-to-json-048 to return XQDY0027 as per bug 29381
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html>
>
>
> ACTION A-630-04: Michael Dyck to fix grammar to make validate {} an error [bug 29370];
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0027.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0027.html>
>
>
> ACTION A-630-05: josh to remove tests for empty validate expression {} [bug 29370]
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0026.html>
>
>
>
> J1.6 Update on related activities
>
> J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
>
>
>
> J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)
>
>
>
> J1.7 Future Meetings
>
> J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
>
> [V44] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html>
>
>
> J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
>
> J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
>
> None scheduled.
>
>
> J2. Documents For Review
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> J3. Maintenance Issues
>
> J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
> earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
> Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
>
> This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
> reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
>
>
> J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
> completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
>
> Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
> Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
> consultation.
>
>
> J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
> XSLT WG documents
>
> J3.1.1 Bugzilla Bug 24568, Is the type system really a lattice? Or just
> a partially ordered set?
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568>
>
> Status: Fixed in Data Model 3.1; not expected to be addressed in Data
> Model 3.0
>
>
> J3.1.2 Bugzilla Bug 25231, [F+O 3.0 ONLY], ISO 8601, and XSD 1.1
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231>
>
> Status: Fixed in F&O 3.1; not expected to be addressed in F&O 3.0
>
>
> J3.1.3 Bugzilla Bug 26788, [XPath30] XQuery-only errors in XPath 3.0
> specification, like XQST0134"
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788>
>
> Status: Fixed in XPath 3.1; not expected to be addressed in XPath 3.0
>
>
>
> J4. Active Specification Development
>
>
> ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
> If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
> independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
> then this can be brought back on the agenda.
>
>
>
> J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
>
> J4.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt>
>
> (none)
>
>
> J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
>
> J4.2.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt>
>
>
> J4.2.1 Bug 29373 - Missing error code when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29373 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29373>
>
> Status: Pending completion of A-630-01
>
>
> J4.2.2 Bug 28319 - [FO30] (and [FO31]) Text on least common type and conversion in fn:min and fn:max ambiguous
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28319 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28319>
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
>
> J4.3.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt>
>
> (none)
>
>
> J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
>
> J4.4.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt>
>
>
> J4.4.1 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277>
>
> Status: Pending completion of A-629-01
>
>
> J4.4.2 Bug 29382 - [XP31] semantics of an 'empty' FunctionBody
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29382 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29382>
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
>
> J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
> applets
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796>
>
> Status: Pending
>
>
>
> J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
>
> J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
>
>
> J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results
>
> Status: Currently three implementers submitted results
>
>
> J4.6.3 Bug 29381 - [QT3] resolve-uri-28 expects error FORG0002, but seems valid according to RFC-3986
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381>
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> J5. Progression of Work
>
> J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
> Serialization 3.1
>
> J5.1.1 Current status
>
> * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
>
>
> J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
>
> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
>
> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
>
> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
>
> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
>
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
>
>
>
> J5.2 Update 3.0
>
> J5.2.1 Current Status
>
> * In Last Call Working Draft
>
>
> J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
>
>
> J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
>
> * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
>
> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
>
> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
>
> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
>
> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
>
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
>
>
>
> J6. Any other business
>
> J6.1 Consideration of future work
>
> J6.1.1 QT 3.2
>
> The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
> but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
> period of time after finishing the specifications.
>
>
> J6.1.2 FT 3.1
>
> Currently inadequate interest and resources
>
>
> J6.1.3 Update 3.1
>
> Currently inadequate interest and resources
>
>
>
> J7. Adjourn
>
>
>
>
> =======================
> XML Query Working Group
> =======================
>
> Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
> 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
> maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
>
> Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
> problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
> specifications.
>
> Status: Pending completion of ACTION A-592-02.
>
> Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> Q2. Active Specification Development
>
> Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
>
> Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt>
>
> * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
>
>
> Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
> See
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html>
>
> * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
> (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
> be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
>
>
> Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
>
> Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt>
>
> (none)
>
>
> Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
>
> Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html>
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt>
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> Q3. Test Suite Development
>
> Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
>
> * Need test suite developer/manager
>
> * Need tests
>
>
>
> Q4. Any other business
>
>
>
> Q5. Adjourn
>
>
>
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