RE: DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #632 Agenda 2016-02-02

About the previous minutes: I tried to find a summary of the in-depth discussion we had last time on bug #29277, but I don't think there wasn't any. Was there supposed to be? I had hoped to be able to recap the essence of last week's call from the minutes.

Is it possible to add the following items to the agenda, if time permits? I think each of them doesn't require more than a couple of minutes (hopefully).

1) negative integer literals (Fri, 29 Jan)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0038.html

2) Bugs in the unused XML Query Test Suite (years old bugs, 13 of them) (Fri, 29 Jan)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0037.html

3) rounding inside format-number (Sun, 31 Jan)
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29409 

I realize that it is rather short before the call, so if people have not seen these before, it may not make much sense to discuss them. However, they follow from implementation issues and so I'm eager to resolve them ;).

> ACTION A-629-03: Abel to write test cases for the resolution to bug 29346.

Not done yet. I think I would prefer the text to be updated prior to writing the tests, as then the exercise combines text-review with actual test writing. As of today I haven't seen the update in the spec yet, though the bug is marked resolved.

Thanks,
Abel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abel Braaksma [mailto:abel.braaksma@xs4all.nl]
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> 2016-02-02
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> 
> From: Andrew Coleman [mailto:andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:05 AM
> To: public-xsl-query@w3.org
> Subject: DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #632 Agenda 2016-
> 02-02
> 
> DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #632 Agenda 2016-02-02
> 
> 
> Andy will chair this meeting.
> 
> PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A
> REVISED AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
> 
> Changes in this agenda:
> 
> 
> 
> This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
> J4.2 (F&O)
> J4.4 (XPath)
> J4.6 (Test Suite)
> 
> 
> Key:
> J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
> Q = Query-only meeting
> 
> 
> Teleconference connection details
> ---------------------------------
> 
> (Member only)
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html
> 
> 
> 
> SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
> ====================
> Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
> this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
> 
> Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent.  The subject of the
> decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
> agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles.  If a
> decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
> state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
> comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
> production>", or the like.  It should be possible to read a decision
> months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
> properly applied.
> 
> 
> NEW ACTION ITEMS
> ================
> Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
> this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
> 
> Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
> is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
> assigned).  This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
> "that") be made clear.  Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
> problem" are DISALLOWED.  It takes a scribe only a few additional
> minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
> WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
> action items.  The subject of the action item should *not* require
> dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
> accompanied by their titles.
> 
> 
> 
> ===================================================
> Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
> ===================================================
> 
> 
> J1. Administrative Items
> 
> J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
> 
> O'Neil has been asked to take the minutes. Michael Sperberg-McQueen has
> been asked to stand by.
> 
> 
> NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
> meeting.
> 
> 
> Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
> participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose
> name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
> meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
> the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
> 
> O'Neil Delpratt     - 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17
> Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03
> Mike Kay            - 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14
> Michael Dyck        - 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31
> Josh Spiegel        - 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24
> Tim Mills           - 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21
> Norm Walsh          - 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05
> Jonathan Robie      - 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29, 2015-05-12
> John Snelson        - 2015-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02
> Liam Quin           - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16
> Adam Retter         - 2015-01-26, 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21
> 
> 
> 
> J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
> 
> Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
> participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
> regrets.  All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
> 
> 
> XML Query WG membership list:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
> 
> XSL WG membership list:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
> 
> 
> Regrets:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> J1.3 Approval of agenda
> 
> J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
> 
> 
> 
> J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
> 
> J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #631 (Adam)
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0034.html
> 
> 
> 
> J1.5 Review of action items
> 
> NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
> 
> J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
> 
> 
> Action A-628-01: Liam to discuss the status of XQuery Update 3.0 at XML
> Prague.
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-13
> 
> 
> ACTION A-629-02: Jonathan Robie to apply the clarification from the
> comment 12 of bug 29346 to the spec.
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02
> 
> 
> ACTION A-629-03: Abel to write test cases for the resolution to bug 29346.
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02
> 
> 
> ACTION A-629-04: Jonathan Robie to fix bug 29362 by referring to the
> definition of op:same-key in F&O
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02
> 
> 
> ACTION A-630-01: Mike Kay to propose a resolution on 29373 Missing error
> code
> when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
> 
> 
> ACTION A-630-02: O'Neil to remove reporting of the features that aren't in
> 3.1
> (static typing, namespace axis) and tests that are not for 3.1
> (e.g. 3.0 or XPath)
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
> 
> 
> ACTION A-630-06: jonathan to check the wordin to make validate {} an error
> [bug 29370]g
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02
> 
> 
> ACTION A-631-01: Jonathan Robie to propose a reformulation of XPath 3.1
> section 3.1.5.1, bullet-points 2 and 5
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-02-02
> 
> 
> ACTION A-631-02: Jonathan Robie to make the changes in XPath 3.1 as
> suggested by Michael Dyck in Bug 29382
> 
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
> 
> 
> 
> J1.5.2 Completed action items
> 
> 
> ACTION A-629-01: Jonathan Robie to propose some clarification text to
> resolve bug 29277.
> 
> Status: Closed; Completed in editor's draft
> 
> 
> 
> J1.6 Update on related activities
> 
> J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
> 
> 
> 
> J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)
> 
> 
> 
> J1.7 Future Meetings
> 
> J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
> 
> [V44] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html
> 
> 
> J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
> 
> J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
> 
> None scheduled.
> 
> 
> J2. Documents For Review
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> 
> J3. Maintenance Issues
> 
> J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
> earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
> Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
> 
> This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
> reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
> 
> 
> J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
> completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
> 
> Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
>         Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
>         consultation.
> 
> 
> J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
> XSLT WG documents
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> J4. Active Specification Development
> 
> 
> ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
> If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
> independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
> then this can be brought back on the agenda.
> 
> 
> 
> J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
> 
> J4.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-
> 31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-
> 31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-
> 31/src/changes.txt
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
> 
> J4.2.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-
> 31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-
> 31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-
> 31/src/changes.txt
> 
> 
> J4.2.1 Bug 29373 - Missing error code when fn:serialize receives a QName
> method in no namespace
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29373
> 
> Status: Pending completion of A-630-01
> 
> 
> 
> J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
> 
> J4.3.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-
> serialization-31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-
> serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-
> serialization-31/src/changes.txt
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
> 
> J4.4.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-
> 31/html/xpath-31.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-
> 31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-
> 31/src/changes.txt
> 
> 
> J4.4.1 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention
> evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277
> 
> Status: Pending completion of A-631-01
> 
> 
> 
> J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
> 
> J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
> applets
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796
> 
> Status: Pending
> 
> 
> 
> J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
> 
> J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
> 
> 
> J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results
> 
> Status: Currently three implementers submitted results
> 
> 
> J4.6.3 Bug 29381 - [QT3] resolve-uri-28 expects error FORG0002, but seems
> valid according to RFC-3986
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29381
> 
> Status: Ready to discuss
> 
> 
> J4.6.4 Bug 29395 - [QT3] Test K2-DataFunc-6 expects validation but this is not
> visible in the metadata
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29395
> 
> Status: Ready to discuss
> 
> 
> J4.6.5 Bug 29398 - [QT3] Base uri with parse-xml in fn-parse-xml-011
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29398
> 
> Status: Ready to discuss
> 
> 
> J4.6.6 Bug 29400 - [QT3] fn-avgflt2args-1 result type
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29400
> 
> Status: Ready to discuss
> 
> 
> J4.6.7 Bug 29401 - [QT3] numeric-unary return type
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29401
> 
> Status: Ready to discuss
> 
> 
> 
> J5. Progression of Work
> 
> J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
> Serialization 3.1
> 
> J5.1.1 Current status
> 
> * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
> 
> 
> J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
> 
> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
> 
> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
> 
> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
> 
> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
> 
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
> 
> 
> 
> J5.2 Update 3.0
> 
> J5.2.1 Current Status
> 
> * In Last Call Working Draft
> 
> 
> J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
> 
> 
> J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
> 
> * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
> 
> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
> 
> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
> 
> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
> 
> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
> 
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
> 
> 
> 
> J6. Any other business
> 
> J6.1 Consideration of future work
> 
> J6.1.1 QT 3.2
> 
> The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
> but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for
> a
> period of time after finishing the specifications.
> 
> 
> J6.1.2 FT 3.1
> 
> Currently inadequate interest and resources
> 
> 
> J6.1.3 Update 3.1
> 
> Currently inadequate interest and resources
> 
> 
> 
> J7. Adjourn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> =======================
> XML Query Working Group
> =======================
> 
> Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
> 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
> maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
> 
> Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
> problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
> specifications.
> 
> 
> Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> 
> Q2. Active Specification Development
> 
> Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
> 
> Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-
> 30/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-
> 30/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-
> 30/src/changes.txt
> 
> * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
> 
> 
> Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
> See
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-
> 30/html/Overview.html
> 
> * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
> (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
> be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
> 
> 
> Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
> 
> Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-
> 31/html/xquery-31.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-
> 31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-
> 31/src/changes.txt
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
> 
> Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-
> 31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-
> 31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-
> 31/src/changes.txt
> 
> (none)
> 
> 
> 
> Q3. Test Suite Development
> 
> Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
> 
> * Need test suite developer/manager
> 
> * Need tests
> 
> 
> 
> Q4. Any other business
> 
> 
> 
> Q5. Adjourn
>

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