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- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:55:51 +0100
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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #642 Agenda 2016-05-03 Andy will chair this meeting. PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! Changes in this agenda: This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: J4.2 (F&O) J4.4 (XPath) Q2.3 (XQuery) Key: J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; Q = Query-only meeting Teleconference connection details --------------------------------- (Member only) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html SUMMARY OF DECISIONS ==================== Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was properly applied. NEW ACTION ITEMS ================ Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. =================================================== Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group =================================================== J1. Administrative Items J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) John has been asked to take the minutes. Liam has been asked to stand by. NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the meeting. Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): ---------------------------------------------------------- (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. John Snelson - 2015-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02 Liam Quin - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16 Adam Retter - 2016-01-26, 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21 Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09 Michael Dyck - 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01 Josh Spiegel - 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08 Tim Mills - 2016-03-22, 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15 Norm Walsh - 2016-04-05, 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22 Jonathan Robie - 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29 O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02, 2015-10-27 Mike Kay - 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01, 2015-11-10 J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. XML Query WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org XSL WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org Regrets: J1.3 Approval of agenda J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #641 (MikeK) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Apr/0033.html J1.5 Review of action items NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! J1.5.1 Outstanding action items ACTION A-637-02: JRobie to include the note in Comment #8 of Bug 29419. Note also comment #11. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-05-17 ACTION A-640-02: Mdyck to implemented proposal in the appendix A of the XPath and XQuery specs as described in 2b. Also to make change in the applet and ensure tests cases are updated in the test suite. Primary one is map-constructor. See: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0035.html - part a) Change spec - DONE - part b) Change applets - part c) Change test suite Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-640-03: Jonathan to document the decision: Partial function application never returns a map or an array. if $F is a map or an array then $F(?) is legal, it returns a function and the function is not a map or an array. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-05-17 ACTION A-640-04: Jonathan Robie to resolve Bug #29277 by making the changes from comment #20 items 2 and 5. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-05-17 ACTION A-641-01 on Liam to make the front page of the old test suite documentation ( https://dev.w3.org/2006/xquery-test-suite/PublicPagesStagingArea/) essentially say that the 1.0 test suite is superseded by the 3.0 test suite (which identifies those tests that are suitable for running under 1.0). Also to update the links (or their annotation) appearing on https://www.w3.org/XML/Query/#hardcore. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-02 (bug 29555) MK to propose a precise algorithm for computing min and max width of a format-date component; also define an error when min>max. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-03 (bug 29583) Jonathan to add xs:anySimpleType to the list of types for which there is no constructor function. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-04 (bug 29277) Jonathan to make the editorial changes needed. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-05 (bug 29509) Jonathan to make a proposal to resolve this bug. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-06 (bug 29546) OND to implement the agreed resolution: tests that require construction of dates with negative years should have an alternative result of error FODT0001. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-07 (bug 29573) (fallback language and calendar) OND to implement the resolution: make the test assertion more liberal, ie. do not require anything that the spec doesn't require. (Done by MK after the meeting) Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-08 (bug 29590) (Circularities) OND to implement the resolution: change the test so there is no possibility of infinite function-call recursion Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-09 (bug 29547) (year zero) OND to apply the resolution: make these tests (a) dependent on support for XSD 1.1, and (b) allow an FODT0001 result for implementations whose minimum year is 0001. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-10 (bug 29589) (multiple module imports) MK to apply documentation changes to explain the expectations of the test suite <module> element. (DONE after the meeting). Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-11 (bug 29592) (array and map prefixes). Action on Tim to resolve the issue in the way suggested in the bug report. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-12 (bug 29572) (an integer is acceptable where decimal is required) MK to change the expected test results so that an integer is acceptable where the specification mandates a decimal. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-13 (bug 29571) on Jonathan and Tim to agree a Note to add to the spec to make it clear to readers that when T is a list type, T(x) cast as T will typically fail. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-14 on Jonathan and Michael Dyck to agree revised wording to resolve the potential ambiguity in the resolution of action A-636-08 as described in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Apr/0020.html. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-15 (bug 29576) (date/time limits) on Jonathan to apply the proposed text in comment #1 of the bug report. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-641-17 (bug 29586) John Snelson (as the expert on 2.5.6.2 The judgement subtype-itemtype(Ai, Bi)), to respond to this bug. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. J1.5.2 Completed action items ACTION A-640-01: Mike Kay to resolve Bug 29570 as described in comment #0 Status: Closed; bug was a duplicate ACTION A-641-16 (bug 29568) (applet problem with \uHHHH) on MDyck to see if we can find a way forward on this bug. Status: Closed; See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Apr/0036.html J1.6 Update on related activities J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) J1.7 Future Meetings J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule [V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Apr/0000.html J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings (none) J2. Documents For Review (none) J3. Maintenance Issues J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG consultation. J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and XSLT WG documents (none) J4. Active Specification Development ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), then this can be brought back on the agenda. J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) J4.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) J4.2.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt J4.2.1 Bug 29555 - [FO31] 9.8.4.2 The Width Modifier https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29555 Status: Pending completion of A-641-02 J4.2.2 Bug 29588 - [fo31] xml-to-json - rules for duplicate keys https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29588 Status: Ready to discuss J4.2.3 Bug 29593 - [FO31] search terms https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29593 Status: Ready to discuss J4.2.4 Bug 29496 - [FO31] parse-ietf-date with military timezones and leniency towards single-digit numbers https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29496 Status: REOPENED: Ready to discuss J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) J4.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) J4.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt J4.4.1 Bug 29509 - Functions: External, Implementation-Defined, Host Language https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29509 Status: Pending completion of A-641-05 J4.4.2 Bug 29419 - [XP31] edge case with negative integer literals (UnaryExpr) and limits for -9223372036854775808, which cannot be parsed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29419 Status: Pending completion of A-637-02 This bug was reopened after this action item was raised - is there more to discuss on this? J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar applets http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 Status: Pending J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results Status: Currently three implementers submitted results J5. Progression of Work J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 3.1 J5.1.1 Current status * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J5.2 Update 3.0 J5.2.1 Current Status * In Last Call Working Draft At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. Status: Ready to discuss J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J6. Any other business J6.1 Consideration of future work J6.1.1 QT 3.2 The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a period of time after finishing the specifications. J6.1.2 FT 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J6.1.3 Update 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J7. Adjourn ======================= XML Query Working Group ======================= Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of specifications. Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents (none) Q2. Active Specification Development Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) Q2.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) Q2.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt Q2.3.1 Bug 29586 - [XQ31] 2.5.6.2 The judgement subtype-itemtype(Ai, Bi) https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29586 Status: Pending completion of A-641-16 Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) Q2.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt (none) Q3. Test Suite Development Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) * Need test suite developer/manager * Need tests Q4. Any other business Q5. Adjourn
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