- From: <loren.cahlander@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:59:32 -0400
- To: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-xsl-query@w3.org
- Message-Id: <9D3E9CC0-B6C5-4562-ABF6-4A2D9103D267@gmail.com>
My regrets. I am involved in a meeting that will be running long.
My proxy to the chair.
Loren
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> REVISED DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #619 Agenda 2015-10-06
>
>
> Andy will chair this meeting.
>
> PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
> AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
>
> Changes in this agenda:
>
> Updated action item status
>
>
> This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
> J4.7
> J4.9
> Q2.3
>
>
>
> Key:
> J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
> Q = Query-only meeting
>
>
> Teleconference connection details
> ---------------------------------
>
> (Member only)
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html
>
>
>
> SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
> ====================
> Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
> this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
>
> Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the
> decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
> agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a
> decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
> state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
> comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
> production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision
> months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
> properly applied.
>
>
> NEW ACTION ITEMS
> ================
> Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
> this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
>
> Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
> is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
> assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
> "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
> problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional
> minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
> WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
> action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require
> dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
> accompanied by their titles.
>
>
>
> ===================================================
> Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
> ===================================================
>
>
> J1. Administrative Items
>
> J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
>
> Adam has been asked to take the minutes. Liam has been asked to stand by.
>
>
> NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
> meeting.
>
>
> Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
> participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
> name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
> meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
> the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
>
> Adam Retter - 2015-04-21, 2015-01-20, 2014-09-23
> Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03, 2014-11-25
> Liam Quin - 2015-06-16, 2015-03-10, 2014-10-27
> O'Neil Delpratt - 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17, 2014-12-02
> Mike Kay - 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14, 2015-01-06
> John Snelson - 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02, 2015-02-11
> Loren Cahlander - 2015-07-17, 2015-05-19, 2015-02-10
> Michael Dyck - 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31, 2014-12-16
> Josh Spiegel - 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24, 2014-12-09
> Tim Mills - 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21, 2015-02-03
> Norm Walsh - 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05, 2015-01-27
> Jonathan Robie - 2015-10-29, 2015-05-12, 2015-01-13
>
>
>
> J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
>
> Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
> participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
> regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
>
>
> XML Query WG membership list:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
>
> XSL WG membership list:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
>
>
> Regrets:
>
>
>
>
> J1.3 Approval of agenda
>
> J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
>
>
>
> J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
>
> J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #618 (Jonathan)
> NOT YET POSTED
>
>
>
> J1.5 Review of action items
>
> NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
>
> J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
>
>
> ACTION A-579-18: Jonathan to write change proposal to support update of
> maps and arrays. (See agenda item Q2.1.1)
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-11-24
>
>
> ACTION A-585-04: Jonathan to write a concrete proposal for XQuery Update
> 3.1 that makes preservation of node identity implementation defined at
> the persistence layer.
> See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2014Nov/0012.html
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-11-24
>
>
> ACTION A-613-26: Norm Walsh to replace the text in XDM 3.1 section
> 17.1 by implementing the changes from comment 6 of bug 28795.
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28795#c6
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
>
>
> ACTION A-613-30: Jonathan Robie to editorially resolve bug
> 27059. Include the example of function coercion against a map item
> from comment 4 of bug 27059.
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27059#c4
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-10-06
>
>
> ACTION A-614-01 on JRobie to work with Zed to build FT 3.1 docs before
> checking them in.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
>
>
> ACTION A-614-13 on JRobie to propose wording to resolve Bug 29027.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-10-06
>
>
> ACTION A-616-02: Michael SpMQ to make changes to serialization
> specification detailed in
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26862
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
>
>
> ACTION A-617-04: ETA 2015-09-29 Jonathan to write prose for the section
> on string templates.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
>
>
> ACTION A-618-01: Loren to change the schema for serialization to allow
> for EQNames.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-618-02 Mike to propose a resolution to
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28845 comments #10-11.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-618-03 Mike to close https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29044
> and implement it in the specification.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-618-04 Mike to handle Bug 29145 editorially.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-618-05 Mike to suggest a resolution to Bug 29146.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-618-07 Jonathan to write text for string templates and add it
> to the spec.
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
> ACTION A-618-08 O'Neil to add texts for fn:collection to support
> results that are not nodes. One approach: the test suite specifies a query that returns a sequence
> equivalent to the contents of a sequence, e.g.
> <collection uri="my-collection" xpath="yes">unparsed-text-lines('xxx')!parse-json()</collection>
>
> Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
>
>
>
>
> J1.5.2 Completed action items
>
>
> ACTION A-613-04 O'Neil to ensure that the use cases in the XQuery 3.1
> requirements and use cases document are added to the QT3 test suite.
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0102.html
>
>
> ACTION A-614-11 on JRobie re Bug 28966: make the change described in the bug
> and mark the bug fixed.
>
> Status: Closed;
>
>
> ACTION A-616-01: Loren to explain the changes he made to the
> serialization schema in response to Josh's email.
>
> Status: Closed;
>
>
> ACTION A-616-05: MikeK to add note to F&O offering more explanation in
> light of decision on Bug 20602 - [QT3TS] fn-resolve-uri-32.
>
> Status: Closed; Reported in Bugzilla
>
>
> ACTION A-616-06: MikeK to update specification in light of adoption of
> proposal in Comment #2
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29009#c2
>
> Status: Closed; Reported in Bugzilla
>
>
> ACTION A-616-07: MikeK to update specification regarding J4.7.3 Bug 29024
> - fn:serialize needs clarification when method parameter set from a map
> and J4.7.4 Bug 29028 - fn:serialize should specify the required type for
> QNames-type with accepted proposal in
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29024#c3
>
> Status: Closed; Reported in Bugzilla
>
>
> ACTION A-617-01 Jonathan to bring discussion of bug 29119 to the mailing list.
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0109.html
>
>
> ACTION A-617-02: Michael Dyck to write a grammar for string templates with names and delimiters he chooses.
>
> Status: Closed;
>
>
> ACTION A-618-06 MDyck to modify string template grammar to use
> ``[ .... `{ .... }` ..... ]`` delimiters.
>
> Status: Closed; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Oct/0005.html
>
>
>
> J1.6 Update on related activities
>
> J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
>
>
>
> J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Loren)
>
>
>
> J1.7 Future Meetings
>
> J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
>
> [V43] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Jul/0038.html
>
>
> J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
>
> J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
>
> There is interest in a possible F2F in conjunction with XML Prague in
> February 2016.
>
>
> J2. Documents For Review
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> J3. Maintenance Issues
>
> J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
> earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
> Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
>
> This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
> reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
>
>
> J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
> completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
>
> Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
> Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
> consultation.
>
>
> J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
> XSLT WG documents
>
> J3.1.1 Bugzilla Bug 24568, Is the type system really a lattice? Or just
> a partially ordered set?
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568
>
> Status: Fixed in Data Model 3.1; not expected to be addressed in Data
> Model 3.0
>
>
> J3.1.2 Bugzilla Bug 25231, [F+O 3.0 ONLY], ISO 8601, and XSD 1.1
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231
>
> Status: Fixed in F&O 3.1; not expected to be addressed in F&O 3.0
>
>
> J3.1.3 Bugzilla Bug 26788, [XPath30] XQuery-only errors in XPath 3.0
> specification, like XQST0134"
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788
>
> Status: Fixed in XPath 3.1; not expected to be addressed in XPath 3.0
>
>
>
> J4. Active Specification Development
>
> J4.1 Full Text 3.0 (Jim)
>
> J4.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-30/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-30/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-30/src/changes.txt
>
> (none)
>
>
> J4.2 Full Text 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Jim)
>
> J4.2.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xpath-full-text-30/html/Overview.html
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> J4.3 Full Text 3.1 (Zed Zhou)
>
> J4.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-31/src/changes.txt
>
> Zed Zhou should prepare a draft of this document with at least some
> technical changes (relative to Full Text 3.0) already made so the WGs
> can consider if they like the direction.
>
>
>
> J4.4 Full Text 3.1 Requirements and Use Cases (Zed Zhou)
>
> J4.4.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xpath-full-text-31/html/Overview.html
>
> Zed Zhou should prepare a draft of this document with the necessary
> requirements and at least some use cases for the WGs to consider. We
> should spend significant time determining which requirements the WGs
> will accept.
>
>
>
> J4.5 XPath and XQuery 3.1 Requirements and Use Cases (Jonathan)
>
> J4.5.0 Internal working drafts
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-31/html/Overview.html
>
> (none)
>
>
> J4.6 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
>
> J4.6.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt
>
> (none)
>
>
> J4.7 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
>
> J4.7.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt
>
>
> J4.7.1 Bug 28845 - fn:format-number, formatting rules for exponential
> notation
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28845
>
> Status: Ready to discuss; See
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0008.html
>
>
> J4.7.2 Bug 29146 - [FO31] fn:transform options update
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29146
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
> J4.7.3 Bug 29159 - [FO31] 14.2.1 fn:distinct-values
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29159
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
> J4.7.4 Bug 29164 - [FO31] format-number() with first argument 0
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29164
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
> J4.7.5 Bug 29172 - [FO31] Avoid anonymous types in schema for fn namespace
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29172
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
> J4.7.6 Bug 10795 - provide alternate results for K2-SeqDocFunc-7 and K2-SeqDocFunc-8
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10795
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> J4.8 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
>
> J4.8.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> J4.9 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
>
> J4.9.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
>
>
> J4.9.1 Bug 29119 - [XP31] xs:error always raises a type error
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29119
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
> J4.9.2 EXI 'changes' to JSON schema
> See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Oct/0000.html
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> J4.10 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
>
> J4.10.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
> applets
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796
>
> Status: Pending
>
>
>
> J4.11 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
>
> J4.11.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
>
>
> J4.11.2 Status of 3.1 tests
>
> Status: Coverage is almost complete.
>
>
> J4.11.3 Publication of test suite.
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> J4.12 FT 3.1 test suite (???)
>
> * Need test suite developer/manager
>
> * Need tests
>
>
>
> J5. Progression of Work
>
> J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
> Serialization 3.1
>
> J5.1.1 Current status
>
> * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
>
>
> J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
>
> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
>
> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
>
> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
>
> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
>
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
>
>
> J5.2 Full Text 3.0
>
> J5.2.1 Current Status
>
> * Proposed Recommendation
>
>
> J5.2.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
>
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
>
>
> J5.3 Update 3.0
>
> J5.3.1 Current Status
>
> * In Last Call Working Draft
>
>
> J5.3.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
>
>
> J5.3.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
>
> * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
>
> * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
>
> * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
>
> * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
>
> * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
>
> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
>
>
>
> J6. Any other business
>
> J6.1 Consideration of future work
>
> J6.1.1 QT 3.2
>
> The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
> but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
> period of time after finishing the specifications.
>
>
> J6.1.2 FT 3.1
>
> EMC has expressed interest and is willing to provide resources
>
>
> J6.1.3 Update 3.1
>
> Unclear whether there is adequate interest or resources
>
>
>
> J7. Adjourn
>
>
>
>
> =======================
> XML Query Working Group
> =======================
>
> Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
> 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
> maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
>
> Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
> problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
> specifications.
>
> Status: Pending completion of ACTION A-592-02.
>
> Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> Q2. Active Specification Development
>
> Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
>
> Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt
>
> * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
>
>
> Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
> See
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
>
> * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
> (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
> be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
>
>
> Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
>
> Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
>
>
> Q2.3.1 Bug 29027 - [qt3] contextDecl-022
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29027
>
> Status: Pending completion of A-614-13
>
>
> Q2.3.2 Bug 29170 - [XQ31] Function and Variable Annotations
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29170
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
> Q2.3.3 Bug 4378 - error in K2-NodeTest-21
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4378
>
> Status: Ready to discuss
>
>
>
> Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
>
> Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt
>
> (none)
>
>
>
> Q3. Test Suite Development
>
> Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
>
> * Need test suite developer/manager
>
> * Need tests
>
>
>
> Q4. Any other business
>
>
>
> Q5. Adjourn
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