- From: <paul.downey@bt.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:34:13 +0100
- To: <public-xsd-databinding@w3.org>
sorry, my cut-and-paste skills need refining, let me try again!
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minutes from yesterday's telcon are now available:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/10/17-databinding-minutes.html
and are copied below for Tracker's searching.
Thanks to George for scribing!
W3C
- DRAFT -
Databinding WG Teleconference
17 Oct 2006
Agenda
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
Jon Calladine (BT)
George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
Paul Downey (BT)
Otu Ekanem (BT)
Yves Lafon (W3C)
Vladislav Bezrukov (SAP AG)
Regrets
Chair
pauld
Scribe
gcowe, pauld
Contents
* Topics
1. ISSUE-2: Test Suite
2. ISSUE-12
3. ISSUE-68
4. ISSUE-71
5. ISSUE-73
6. ISSUE-10
7. LAST CALL
* Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________________
George and Paul are in Edinburgh and have been working on the pattern
detection (2 days)
Last 2 sets of minutes approved
no progress on interop event
Status of Deliverables: Paul - tidied up patterns and examples
documents.
pauld: Did a whole bunch of editing, confident we've all our closed
Basic issues recorded in the Basic document. please review our
documents, in particular the conformance section.
pauld: ditched the edtodo list, will track outstanding editorial work
using ednotes in the specs. Tracker isn't helpful here.
Yves: we could close issues with an ACTION for editors ..
pauld: being neglectful in doing this.
George reported on issues/patterns/examples checking using a tool
ISSUE-2: Test Suite
pauld: still need to put up a test suite page, and document process
for producing the reports
otu: been working on a test report for Microsoft's .NET 3.0 (WCF),
need some help
pauld: will work with you on this tomorrow in London
ISSUE-12
Yves approach of visiting each node still sounds interesting. We've
been moving towards this rather than trying to bend schematron
patterns have been revisited and changed to ensure they all return a
nodeset of the elements and attributes 'touched'
Yves: are we using Saxon8 - xslt2?
<gcowe> yes
<pauld> we flag our XPath 2.0 requirement using XSLT version="2.0"
k
<pauld> patterns source:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/patterns.xml
<pauld> examples source:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/examples.xml
paul explains how patterns.xml is used to gen an xsl which detects
patterns present in a schema but highlights elements outside the
patterns
pauld: we now generate our own XSLT directly, though you can implement
this in Java. Calling a Schema processor as a check first sounds like
a must for a validator.
<pauld> patterns2detector source:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/patterns2detecto
r.xsl
<pauld> generated patternsdetector:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/patternsdetector
.xsl
ISSUE-68
this seems to be a testing tool issue - passed to testing team in WS-I
ISSUE-71
relationship with WS-I Basic Profile - do we draw attention to the
fact that the BP is less restrictive wrt schema?
<pauld>
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/basic/basic.html#WS-I
jon: should we mention this in the normative text (introduction?)
<pauld>
http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/BasicProfile-1.1-2004-08-24.html#WSDLSCHE
MA
<pauld> ACTION: pdowney to make reference to R2800 in the WS-I
relationship [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Make reference to R2800 in the WS-I
relationship
ISSUE-73
our spec follows the BP and works as the XML level. We don't reference
the infoset and this means we may allow or disallow DTDs and entities
and other XML serialisation artifacts directly.
Yves: don't think we need to mention the infoset in the spec
pauld: compare this with our constraint on UTF-8/16 encoding
... should we specifically allow/disallow DTDs ?
Yves: this is depend on the context in which our specification is used
pauld: do we need test cases with a DTD and entities?
<pauld>
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/patterns/examples.xml
<Yves> SOAP 1.2: The XML infoset of a SOAP message MUST NOT contain a
document type declaration information item.
vlad: is the use of DTDs by xslt processors well supported?
pauld: yes seems to be, more of an issue will be when an
implementation in Java or C doesn't use a XML processor. Seems
unlikely these days.
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to collect evidence where this is used in
practise [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Collect evidence where this is used in
practise
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney create a test case for DTD [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Create a test case for DTD [on Paul
Downey - due
<pauld> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/databinding/issues/open
ISSUE-10
<scribe> no progress, hope to be able to close this on next week's
call.
LAST CALL
need to close off all our open issues for Basic
planning to move to LC next week, subject to closing our remaining
issues - if you have issues for Basic, please send them in now!
will complete all editorial work and demonstrate the validity of our
Basic patterns using our detector and rollup report running the
patterns against the examples
will call for a vote either on a telcon, or ask for objections via the
memeber list.
gcowe: not on call next week - so gives proxy to BT for Last call!
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney create a test case for DTD [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney to collect evidence where this is used in
practise [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney to make reference to R2800 in the WS-I
relationship [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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