- From: Stephen D Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:53:01 +0100
- To: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>
- Cc: "liam@w3.org" <liam@w3.org>, "public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org" <public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAA0AChXKTyi9so9JxGb7idJwx+ic_mfYJpmKo0qXpmW7VL-AbA@mail.gmail.com>
How about HLink then? http://www.w3.org/TR/hlink/ ---- Stephen D Green On 5 July 2013 13:16, Rushforth, Peter <Peter.Rushforth@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>wrote: > Hi, > > > > [Liam wrote:] > > > > No, which is why it's not going in XML core. > > > > > > I don't speak for the XML Core Working Group. However, a "one > > eature at a time" approach isn't going to fly. > > I can't parse this. Can you elaborate a bit please. > > > > > > XML isn't used much on the Web today because of money. The > > business reasons are not primarily to do with hyperlinking, > > although I agree that's part of it. > > > > The problems I see are: > > > > 1. You can't put JavaScript-based ads in XML. > > XML describes content, not presentation. If you can put links in XML, > you should be able to put links to ads if you like. Why you > would put links to ads in data is a bit beyond me, but one might > find a reason in this day and age. > > > > > 2. Search engines don't know how to make useful result > > snippets from XML, so XML files get lower ranking in search > > results. > > Current search engines are focused on presenting stuff to humans to read, > so it's no wonder they pay no attention to xml. > > But say there was markup language for spreadsheets, with a media > type application/spreadsheet+xml. A crawler which is programmed > for application/spreadsheet+xml will 'know' what to do with it, > and a search engine will develop a presentation that will become > familiar to people. > > > > > > But it would need to have backing of browser programmers, > > most of whom seem to hate XML with a passion > > Yes, that's true. But maybe helping XML conform to the style of the > web would help that situation: http://annevankesteren.nl/2005/02/xml-links > > >, and search > > engine vendors, who will act if there's enough content. > > Yes! As you mentioned, more XML may be generated in a single day > than exists on the Web as a whole. Put in a little standard linking > and who knows what could happen. > > > > > My "automatic namespaces" proposal is one way to do > > architectural forms without using explicit namespaces; i > > think John Cowan is going to propse another at Balisage this > > August. What I mean here is the ability to make a simple > > mapping between elements and attributes in the document and > > some very simple set of properties. One could use XSLT, but > > that has unbounded computation, so something simpler to say, > > "construct a URI by concatenating these two attributes in > > this way with this string" and, "this element's contents form > > the document title", and, "para elements break paragraphs". > > Well simplicity always has an attraction, but I have doubts that > architectural forms are simple enough. I believe that you > can style XML with CSS currently, so if you could link to a > CSS resource from an XML resource that would help the presentation > of arbitrary XML. > > Cheers, > Peter > >
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