XProc Minutes 17 June 2010

See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/06/17-minutes

[1]W3C

                                   - DRAFT -

                            XML Processing Model WG

Meeting 174, 17 Jun 2010

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
           Paul, Henry, Alex, Norm

   Regrets
           Vojtech, Mohamed

   Chair
           Norm

   Scribe
           Norm

Contents

     * [4]Topics

         1. [5]Accept this agenda?
         2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
         3. [7]Next meeting: telcon, 24 June 2010?
         4. [8]Of HTML and encodings
         5. [9]Any other business?

     * [10]Summary of Action Items

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  Accept this agenda?

   -> [11]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/06/17-agenda

   Norm: Let's add my HTML/encoding question and drop 2.1 because there's
   nothing new today.

   Henry: No, there's one thing we can talk about wrt 2.1

   Accepted.

  Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

   -> [12]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/06/10-minutes

   Accepted.

  Next meeting: telcon, 24 June 2010?

   Paul is at risk, he'll dial in if he can.

  Of HTML and encodings

   Some discussion of what the expected processing is for an XHTML document
   sent as text/html

   Alex: If you do this with an Reader in Java, you've already made the
   encoding choice. On an InputStream, you haven't.
   ... What processors do here is sniff if the content type isn't specified
   and work out the encoding from the first 200 bytes or so.

   <ht> [13]http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2854.txt

   Henry: I've been looking at RFC 2854, the RFC that current governs
   text/html
   ... oddly, the RFC makes several observations but doesn't actually seem to
   say what to do.

   Spec exploration ensues

   Henry: The final note in 7.1.10.4 is clearly wrong, if there's a charset
   parameter it is text.

   <ht> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

   <scribe> ACTION: Norm to propose an erratum for the note at the end of
   7.1.10.4 to add something like "without a charset" [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-xproc-minutes.html#action01]

   <ht> Or you could have said override-content-type="text/html;
   charset=utf-8"

   Norm: Yes, I could. That might be the easiest solution, in fact.

   Some discussion of content transfer encoding.

   <ht> For what it's worth, RFC2616 defines 'entity body' as the octets in
   the message

   <ht> Wrong

   <ht> "The entity-body is obtained

   <ht> from the message-body by decoding any Transfer-Encoding that might

   <ht> have been applied to ensure safe and proper transfer of the message.

   <ht> "

   <scribe> ACTION: Norm to propose en erratum for 7.1.10.3 to clarify that
   "decoded if necessary" applies to Content-Encoding headers. [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-xproc-minutes.html#action02]

   Henry: The .svgz documents should allow us to demonstrate the problem
   pretty quickly.

  Any other business?

   None heard.

   Adjourned.

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Norm to propose an erratum for the note at the end of
   7.1.10.4 to add something like "without a charset" [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-xproc-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Norm to propose en erratum for 7.1.10.3 to clarify that
   "decoded if necessary" applies to Content-Encoding headers. [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-xproc-minutes.html#action02]

   [End of minutes]

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